Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship, Money in DC, Datacenters, Graham Platner

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship, Money in DC, Datacenters, Graham Platner

America's AI lead over China is only 6–8 months — and Democratic calls for a data center moratorium could hand that race to Beijing, says Senator John Fetterman.

Jun 10, 2026 43:23 Difficulty: Beginner Played

TL;DR

Pennsylvania's Democratic Senator John Fetterman and Republican Senator Dave McCormick sit down with the All-In hosts to make the case for bipartisanship in a hyper-polarized era. They share common ground on AI, energy, Israel, and opposing government shutdowns, while pushing back on extremism in both parties. McCormick details how $92 billion in energy and AI investment is fueling a blue-collar construction boom in Pennsylvania, and both senators agree the system is broken by dark money — McCormick's Senate race alone cost $500 million. The single most useful takeaway: America's AI lead over China is only 6–8 months, making data center moratoriums a de facto gift to Beijing.

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Pennsylvania Senators John Fetterman (D) and Dave McCormick (R) join the All-In hosts to discuss bipartisanship, the filibuster, AI and energy policy, dark money in politics, and the alarming rise of extremist candidates.

Chapter list
  • Cold open with news clips of Fetterman and McCormick, then the hosts introduce the two Pennsylvania senators — one Democrat, one Republican — who have built a bipartisan working relationship.

  • Fetterman and McCormick explain how Pennsylvania's diverse electorate — bridging urban Democrats and rural Republicans — forces bipartisanship. Both flipped Senate seats by rejecting extreme positions and building working-family coalitions.

  • Calacanis challenges both senators on Senate dysfunction and $40 trillion debt. Fetterman defends supporting Iran accountability, blasts Democratic TDS, and admits his party was completely wrong about eliminating the filibuster.

  • McCormick warns that rising wealth inequality will destroy capitalism unless voluntarily addressed. He proposes Invest in America accounts and school choice as Carnegie-style private solutions. Friedberg pushes back with a smaller-government thesis.

  • Discussion of Maine Democratic candidate Graham Platner, who has a Nazi tattoo and made anti-soldier statements yet is polling viably. Both senators condemn the rise of extremism on the left and right, including Democratic antisemitism and socialist drift.

  • McCormick details the $92B energy and AI investment wave transforming Pennsylvania, including Homer City's 4.4GW conversion. Welders earn $100K+. Fetterman warns the US is only 6–8 months ahead of China in AI, making a data center moratorium a China-first policy.

  • Both senators reflect on the obscene cost of modern Senate races — $500M for McCormick, $330M for Fetterman — and argue the primary system produces extremists. Fetterman calls for open primaries as well as campaign finance reform.

Filibuster
A Senate procedure requiring 60 votes to end debate and proceed to a vote, effectively giving the minority party a check on majority power.
K-shaped economy
A post-recession recovery where upper-income groups (those with assets) recover and thrive while lower-income groups stagnate or decline, creating a diverging 'K' shape.
TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)
A pejorative term for the political tendency to reflexively oppose anything associated with Trump, regardless of its actual merits.
Dark money
Political spending by nonprofit organizations that are not required to disclose their donors, making the true source of funding opaque.
War Powers Act
A 1973 US law requiring the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and limiting unauthorized deployments to 60 days.
Permitting reform
Legislative changes to streamline the federal process of approving energy and infrastructure projects, which currently can take years or decades.
Invest in America accounts
A proposed policy mechanism allowing wealthy individuals to direct private capital into opportunity-building accounts for lower-income Americans, bypassing government administration.
Luddite
Originally 19th-century textile workers who destroyed machinery; now used broadly for anyone who opposes or fears new technology. Fetterman used it to describe Democrats who want to block AI development.
Moratorium
A temporary prohibition on a specific activity; here used to describe proposed Democratic legislation that would pause construction of new data centers.
Fracking (hydraulic fracturing)
A drilling technique that injects high-pressure fluid into rock formations to extract oil and natural gas; central to Pennsylvania's shale energy industry.
Gigawatt (GW)
A unit of electrical power equal to one billion watts; used here to describe the scale of power generation at large energy and data center projects.
Closed-loop water system
A cooling system that continuously recirculates the same water rather than consuming fresh water; used in data centers to address community concerns about water use.
Covenant
A formal agreement or set of commitments; McCormick used it to describe the clear set of community benefits data center developers should promise to local governments.
Quaint
Attractively unusual or old-fashioned; used by Fetterman to suggest current campaign spending figures will look laughably small compared to future races.
Munged
Confused, mixed up, or corrupted; McCormick used it to describe how the broad concept of AI is being conflated with the specific issue of data centers in public debate.
Chassis
The underlying structural framework; used metaphorically by Fetterman to describe the foundational AI infrastructure that either America or China will build and control.
Pipefitters / Steamfitters
Skilled trade workers who install, maintain, and repair pipe systems for gas, steam, and liquid; mentioned as blue-collar union members who crossed party lines to vote for both senators.
Rank and file
The ordinary members of an organization, as distinct from its leadership; used to describe union workers who voted differently from their union leadership's endorsements.

Chapter 1 · 00:00

PA Senators Fetterman and McCormick join the Besties

Cold open with news clips of Fetterman and McCormick, then the hosts introduce the two Pennsylvania senators — one Democrat, one Republican — who have built a bipartisan working relationship.

Government
Bipartisanship in the Most Polarized Senate in History

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship,… · Jun 10, 2026 Government

Two Pennsylvania senators — one Democrat, one Republican — argue that bipartisanship isn't naive, it's necessary. Pennsylvania's diverse electorate, spanning urban Democrats and rural Republicans, forces politicians to build broad coalitions or lose. They both flipped their respective Senate seats by rejecting extremism, and they argue this model is the blueprint for the rest of America.

Chapter 2 · 00:33

Bipartisanship in 2026, rejecting extremism

Fetterman and McCormick explain how Pennsylvania's diverse electorate — bridging urban Democrats and rural Republicans — forces bipartisanship. Both flipped Senate seats by rejecting extreme positions and building working-family coalitions.

Claims made here

Two-thirds of rank-and-file union members — electricians, pipefitters, and steamfitters — voted for McCormick despite their national unions endorsing his Democratic opponent.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Chapter 3 · 06:37

All-time unpopularity in the Senate, the filibuster question, tribalism

Calacanis challenges both senators on Senate dysfunction and $40 trillion debt. Fetterman defends supporting Iran accountability, blasts Democratic TDS, and admits his party was completely wrong about eliminating the filibuster.

Claims made here

Pennsylvania fentanyl deaths fell from approximately 4,000 in the last year of the Biden administration to 1,600, a decline of roughly 60%, which mirrors national statistics.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Government
Fetterman Blasts His Own Party: 'If Trump Said Ice Cream, We'd Hate It'

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship,… · Jun 10, 2026 Government

Fetterman delivers a scorching critique of the Democratic Party's Trump Derangement Syndrome — saying campaigns are literally built around 'fuck Trump' rage bait. He refuses to be defined by opposition and says if Democrats despise Trump more than they fear Iran going nuclear, that's a catastrophic failure of priorities.

Chapter 4 · 13:33

Fixing wealth concentration in the US

McCormick warns that rising wealth inequality will destroy capitalism unless voluntarily addressed. He proposes Invest in America accounts and school choice as Carnegie-style private solutions. Friedberg pushes back with a smaller-government thesis.

Claims made here

The median household income in Pennsylvania is $52,000 per year.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Business
Wealth Concentration: We're Going to Lose Capitalism

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship,… · Jun 10, 2026 Business

McCormick is blunt: the last 10 years were the greatest decade in human history for asset owners, and a disaster for the median Pennsylvania worker earning $52,000 a year. He says capitalism will be lost unless wealthy people voluntarily direct capital toward opportunity for others — not through government, but through choice-based programs like Invest in America accounts.

Government
The Government Less Framing: Does Washington Have It Backwards?

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship,… · Jun 10, 2026 Government

Friedberg poses the empirical case that more government spending makes markets less efficient, more expensive, and less accessible — the opposite of what Congress believes. He says every time he visits DC he leaves unhappy because every person in Congress thinks the answer is always 'do more.' Neither senator fully disagrees.

Chapter 5 · 19:51

Graham Platner, why extremism wins primaries, and what it means for the future

Discussion of Maine Democratic candidate Graham Platner, who has a Nazi tattoo and made anti-soldier statements yet is polling viably. Both senators condemn the rise of extremism on the left and right, including Democratic antisemitism and socialist drift.

Claims made here

Senator Fetterman votes along Democratic Party lines approximately 93% of the time.

John Fetterman no source cited

Government
Graham Platner: What A Nazi Tattoo Tells Us About American Politics

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship,… · Jun 10, 2026 Government

A candidate with a literal Nazi tattoo on his chest is polling viably in Maine. Fetterman calls it an outgrowth of backlash to extreme partisanship — and warns that when mainstream Democrats shrug off this kind of candidate, something has gone deeply wrong. McCormick adds that the Democratic Party's lurch toward Marxism and antisemitism validates and mirrors this extremism.

Chapter 6 · 28:11

How AI and energy are playing a part in PA's blue collar boom, dark money funding misinformation

McCormick details the $92B energy and AI investment wave transforming Pennsylvania, including Homer City's 4.4GW conversion. Welders earn $100K+. Fetterman warns the US is only 6–8 months ahead of China in AI, making a data center moratorium a China-first policy.

Claims made here

At McCormick's Energy Innovation Summit in Pennsylvania in July, $92 billion of investment was committed by energy and AI companies.

Dave McCormick no source cited

The Homer City power plant in Pennsylvania is being converted from coal to natural gas, producing 4.4 gigawatts — 3.4 GW for a data center complex and 1 GW returned to the grid.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Pennsylvania is the second-largest energy producer in the United States and would rank fourth in the world in natural gas reserves if it were a country.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Approximately 80% of Pennsylvanians now support fracking, 15 years after intense opposition to shale development.

Dave McCormick no source cited

The US is approximately 6 to 8 months ahead of China in the AI race.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Construction workers in Pennsylvania have seen 25 to 30 percent wage increases driven by the data center and energy construction boom.

David Sacks no source cited

Seasoned welders and electricians in Pennsylvania are earning more than $100,000 a year at data center and energy project construction sites.

Dave McCormick no source cited

The Pennsylvania Trucking Association estimates approximately 2 logistics jobs are created for every direct job in a data center.

Dave McCormick Pennsylvania Trucking Association

Technology
Dark Money and Misinformation Driving Anti-Data Center Campaign

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship,… · Jun 10, 2026 Technology

Opposition to data centers isn't just NIMBYism — McCormick says it's largely being driven by China and outside forces funding misinformation campaigns. The playbook mirrors the anti-fracking campaign from 15 years ago. Then it took 15 years to get to 80% public support. The US doesn't have 15 years in the AI race.

Chapter 7 · 41:05

Insane level of money in politics, fixing the broken system

Both senators reflect on the obscene cost of modern Senate races — $500M for McCormick, $330M for Fetterman — and argue the primary system produces extremists. Fetterman calls for open primaries as well as campaign finance reform.

Claims made here

Dave McCormick's Senate race cost a total of $500 million — $200 million on his side and $300 million raised by the opposition.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Senator Fetterman's Senate race cost approximately $330 million.

John Fetterman no source cited

Government
The Broken Primary System Is Producing Extremists

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship,… · Jun 10, 2026 Government

Primaries don't select the best candidates — they select the most extreme. Fetterman says opening primaries would be as important as getting money out of politics. Meanwhile, McCormick's Senate race alone cost $500 million, and Fetterman's cost $330 million — all of it largely spent destroying reputations rather than building policy.

No indexed bits in this chapter.

Show stoppers

Government
Fetterman Blasts His Own Party: 'If Trump Said Ice Cream, We'd Hate It'

Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick: Bipartisanship,… · Jun 10, 2026 Government

Fetterman delivers a scorching critique of the Democratic Party's Trump Derangement Syndrome — saying campaigns are literally built around 'fuck Trump' rage bait. He refuses to be defined by opposition and says if Democrats despise Trump more than they fear Iran going nuclear, that's a catastrophic failure of priorities.

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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.

The US is approximately 6 to 8 months ahead of China in the AI race.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Pennsylvania fentanyl deaths fell from approximately 4,000 in the last year of the Biden administration to 1,600, a decline of roughly 60%, which mirrors national statistics.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Dave McCormick's Senate race cost a total of $500 million — $200 million on his side and $300 million raised by the opposition.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Senator Fetterman's Senate race cost approximately $330 million.

John Fetterman no source cited

At McCormick's Energy Innovation Summit in Pennsylvania in July, $92 billion of investment was committed by energy and AI companies.

Dave McCormick no source cited

The Homer City power plant in Pennsylvania is being converted from coal to natural gas, producing 4.4 gigawatts — 3.4 GW for a data center complex and 1 GW returned to the grid.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Pennsylvania is the second-largest energy producer in the United States and would rank fourth in the world in natural gas reserves if it were a country.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Seasoned welders and electricians in Pennsylvania are earning more than $100,000 a year at data center and energy project construction sites.

Dave McCormick no source cited

The Pennsylvania Trucking Association estimates approximately 2 logistics jobs are created for every direct job in a data center.

Dave McCormick Pennsylvania Trucking Association

Approximately 80% of Pennsylvanians now support fracking, 15 years after intense opposition to shale development.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Senator Fetterman votes along Democratic Party lines approximately 93% of the time.

John Fetterman no source cited

The median household income in Pennsylvania is $52,000 per year.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Two-thirds of rank-and-file union members — electricians, pipefitters, and steamfitters — voted for McCormick despite their national unions endorsing his Democratic opponent.

Dave McCormick no source cited

Construction workers in Pennsylvania have seen 25 to 30 percent wage increases driven by the data center and energy construction boom.

David Sacks no source cited