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Comcast Splits, OpenAI Weighs IPO Delay, and Buttigieg Targeted
Scott Galloway says Anthropic has overtaken OpenAI so fast it's like "RC Cola one morning becoming the market leader" — and OpenAI's IPO delay is the crack that signals a coming AI valuation reckoning.
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Comcast Splits, OpenAI Weighs IPO Delay, and Buttigieg Targeted
Scott Galloway says Anthropic has overtaken OpenAI so fast it's like "RC Cola one morning becoming the market leader" — and OpenAI's IPO delay is the crack that signals a coming AI valuation reckoning.
TL;DR
Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway break down Comcast's decision to spin off NBCUniversal and Sky, unlocking hidden value in two pure-play businesses [1] — Scott Galloway "Markets assign a company's lowest valuation multiple to its best businesses when they're bundled with bad ones. Comcast's media business gr…" 09:22 . OpenAI is reportedly delaying its IPO as Anthropic overtakes it in enterprise adoption and its losses ballooned nearly 8x [2] — Kara Swisher "OpenAI losses up nearly 8x in 2025: Leaked OpenAI financials showed losses increasing nearly 8x in 2025, with spending hitting $34 billion." 23:40 , a "great flippening" Scott says will define AI valuations in 2026 [3] — Scott Galloway "Goldman and JPMorgan reportedly told Sam Altman the numbers aren't ready for public markets. OpenAI lost nearly 8x more in 2025, spent $34B…" 25:40 . Pete Buttigieg's family was targeted by a fabricated CPS report during Pride Month, raising urgent questions about online anonymity and accountability [4] — Scott Galloway "The answer to weaponized anonymous tips isn't eliminating anonymity — it's creating digital credentials that prove you're a unique human wi…" 37:50 . Key takeaway: accountability gaps online — not free speech — are the core problem.
Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Comcast splitting off NBCUniversal and Sky, OpenAI reportedly delaying its IPO amid mounting losses and Anthropic's rise, Pete Buttigieg's family being targeted by a fabricated CPS report, Trump blocking a bipartisan housing bill, and wins and fails including tributes to Om Malik and Bill Maher's Mark Twain Prize.
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The episode opens with sponsor reads for Indeed, BetterHelp, and Pure Leaf before Scott and Kara launch into warm self-deprecating banter triggered by an AP profile on Kara. The profile's memorable line — that Scott's 'penchant for vulgarities' makes Kara 'seem almost highbrow' — prompts Scott to invoke Coco Chanel's quote on vulgarity versus poverty. The hosts then free-associate into a presidential fantasy draft: Scott nominates Pete Buttigieg for sheer intellect ('smart intelligence has to make a comeback in the Oval Office'), names Governors Newsom, Shapiro, and Pritzker as strong Democratic options, and gives measured praise to Nikki Haley as a Republican talent trapped by Trump's orbit. Kara picks Mark Cuban before reconsidering, and both land on Jon Ossoff as generating 'Camelot energy.' The riff is light but telegraphs several storylines the episode will return to, including Buttigieg's political future and the broader question of leadership in a leaderless moment.
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Kara Swisher breaks the news: Comcast is spinning off NBC, Universal Film Studio, theme parks, and Sky into a new publicly traded entity, keeping Xfinity broadband and wireless while retaining a roughly 20% stake in the new entity. Shares jumped 21% in pre-market trading, and the deal is expected to close in about a year. [1] — Kara Swisher "Comcast shares up 21% on spinoff news: Comcast's stock jumped 21% in pre-market trading Monday after announcing the NBCUniversal and Sky sp…" 08:40 Scott Galloway uses the moment to deliver a compact master class in conglomerate theory: CEO compensation surveys (he cites Towers Perrin) create incentives for relentless empire-building, but markets eventually punish diversified companies by assigning the weakest unit's valuation multiple to the whole enterprise — what Scott colorfully calls a 'turducken.' [2] — Scott Galloway "The market has a tendency to do is it looks at the shittiest business 'cause it says there's no synergy here... we're gonna assign that mul…" 10:20 The numbers make the case starkly: last quarter, media revenue grew 40% to nearly $12 billion, theme parks grew 24%, media 61%, studios 21% — while residential connectivity shrank 4%. [3] — Scott Galloway "Comcast media revenue up 40%: Comcast's media division reported a 40% increase in revenue to nearly $12 billion in a single quarter, while …" 11:46 The spinoff creates two pure plays: a cash-generating mature connectivity business and a high-multiple growth business, boosting the combined stock roughly 25%. Scott then pivots to a surprise prediction: Snap, whose stock is down 93% over five years, could triple or quadruple if it spun off its Spectacles unit — Meta gets $400 in market cap per user; Snap gets $17. [4] — Scott Galloway "Snap stock down 93% in 5 years: Snap's stock is down 93% over the last five years despite having 500 million daily users — Scott argues spi…" 16:22 The segment closes with both hosts praising Comcast CEO Brian Roberts and his team as the most underrated management group in media, lamenting that they were locked out of the Warner Bros. Discovery deal but now have a cleaner path to M&A.
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Kara Swisher opens with the reported news that OpenAI is considering delaying its IPO until next year, noting Sam Altman is reportedly holding out for a $1 trillion valuation despite an $850 billion March valuation, leaked financials showing nearly 8x growth in losses and $34 billion in spending, and a tepid SpaceX IPO complicating the market backdrop. [1] — Kara Swisher "OpenAI losses up nearly 8x in 2025: Leaked OpenAI financials showed losses increasing nearly 8x in 2025, with spending hitting $34 billion." 23:40 Scott Galloway immediately reframes this as an individual company story, not a systemic one — coining 'the great flippening' to describe Anthropic's rapid displacement of OpenAI as the dominant AI platform. [2] — Scott Galloway "We've never seen Avis overtake Hertz this fast. This isn't even Pepsi overtaking Coke. It's like RC Cola one morning is the market leader." 24:57 He argues that CEOs are actively blaming OpenAI models and swapping to Anthropic expecting greater ROI, comparing the market-share flip to 'RC Cola one morning becoming the market leader.' The core IPO problem, Scott contends, is that a side-by-side S-1 comparison would expose two damning facts simultaneously: OpenAI has lost significant momentum to Anthropic, and it's spending cash 'promiscuously' relative to its rival, which projects breaking even by 2030. [3] — Scott Galloway "Anthropic projected to break even by 2030: Despite massive losses, Anthropic projects it will break even by 2030, contrasting with OpenAI's…" 26:55 He predicts the second half of 2026 will be defined by Sam Altman dramatically cutting CapEx commitments to clean up the books before any public offering, and that this pullback will ripple through Oracle, CoreWeave, and SoftBank. Kara and Scott also debate whether Anthropic should move fast while it's on top — Scott says Dario Amodei should race to the public markets immediately.
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Kara Swisher describes the deeply disturbing story: an anonymous caller fabricated a tip to CPS claiming Pete Buttigieg's 4-year-old twins were at risk, triggering a Michigan State Police investigation that barred Buttigieg from being alone with his children for 24 hours, with the twins questioned by authorities without either parent present. [1] — Kara Swisher "Buttigieg barred from being alone with twins for 24 hours: Pete Buttigieg was not allowed to be alone with his 4-year-old twins for 24 hour…" 34:38 The report was later confirmed completely fabricated. Kara, noting she knows the Buttigieg family personally — especially Chasten — describes the fear gay parents carry constantly about having their fitness as parents questioned. Scott reframes the incident: this isn't purely a gay issue, it's stochastic terrorism. He describes knowing a straight Midwestern couple who received the same treatment when a high-school grudge led a classmate to file a false CPS report — the neighborhood found out, and the reputational damage was permanent regardless of the investigation's outcome. [2] — Scott Galloway "The internet doesn't have a speech problem, it has an accountability problem. And our fetishization for free speech and anonymity has resul…" 39:22 The hosts identify the structural problem: CPS systems rightly encourage anonymous reporting to capture real abuse, but the same anonymity enables weaponized bad-faith reports with zero consequence for the filer. Scott proposes a solution: verified-yet-anonymous digital credentialing, where a unique digital stamp proves you're a real human without revealing who you are, and malicious filers face investigation after the fact. [3] — Scott Galloway "The answer to weaponized anonymous tips isn't eliminating anonymity — it's creating digital credentials that prove you're a unique human wi…" 37:50 Both hosts close by expressing personal outrage and hope the incident doesn't deter Buttigieg from running in 2028.
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Kara Swisher reports that House Speaker Mike Johnson is sending the landmark housing bill to the White House days after Trump abruptly canceled the bill-signing ceremony. The bill passed both chambers with overwhelming bipartisan support, 358-32 — a ratio Scott Galloway notes is almost unheard of in today's Congress. [1] — Scott Galloway "Housing bill passed 358-32 in Congress: The landmark housing bill passed both houses with overwhelming bipartisan support, 358 to 32, yet T…" 42:22 Trump says he won't sign until Congress passes his SAVE Act requiring photo ID and ending mail-in voting. Kara notes the Constitution provides a path around him: if Trump doesn't sign within 10 days, the bill becomes law; if he vetoes, Congress likely has the votes to override. [2] — Scott Galloway "10% rise in housing prices = 1% drop in birth rates: Every 10% increase in housing prices is associated with a 1% decrease in birth rates, …" 41:30 Scott argues housing affordability is one of America's most consequential crises, referencing Finland's housing-first homelessness strategy — just build cheap housing — and citing research linking every 10% housing price increase to a 1% drop in birth rates, reduced coupling, and lower self-esteem. He characterizes the bipartisan bill as 'weak sauce in specifics but a powerful symbolic movement in the right direction,' and says Trump blocking it is straightforwardly self-defeating — he should put on a tool belt and take credit.
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Kara Swisher opens the wins and fails segment by noting too many fail candidates — including the Trump family mining deal in Kazakhstan where Don, Eric, and the Lutnick family stand to profit, and the ongoing human tragedy in Venezuela. But she chooses to focus on two personal losses. Om Malik, one of the earliest and most influential tech bloggers, died this week after long struggles with heart issues. Kara describes him as one of the most joyful figures in early tech media, someone who had called people on bad behavior long before it was fashionable, and who later became a venture capitalist. Ed Daley, Kara's longtime assistant, also died — a victim of complications from diabetes. Kara describes him as an unsung hero of her business-building years with Walt Mossberg, someone who took her children on camping trips and gave everything to the people around him. Both tributes are deeply personal and reflective of an era in tech media that feels increasingly distant.
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Kara Swisher pivots from mourning to celebration: the Supreme Court rejected Trump's attempt to toss the $5 million E. Jean Carroll sexual abuse verdict. Kara calls this the end of the road on that specific judgment — Trump must pay — and notes it's a notable counterpoint on a day when the Court also ruled against the Trump administration on mail-in ballot issues in Mississippi. She briefly texts Carroll's attorney Robbie Kaplan during the segment to get an update on the ongoing defamation case, which involves a separate approximately $80 million verdict still being disputed. The moment feels cathartic given how long the legal battle has dragged on, and Kara's satisfaction is palpable.
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Scott Galloway's fail segment targets a pattern of Republican senators saying the right thing privately and the wrong thing (or nothing) publicly. First, ABC's John Carl interviewed Senators Todd Young and Mark Kelly and directly asked Young whether Trump's accusation of sedition against Kelly — a combat pilot who flew the space shuttle — was appropriate. Young praised Kelly in a text, said nothing on air. [1] — Scott Galloway "Let me save you $7,000 on the leadership course of any major university. Do the right thing even when it's hard. There, you just saved $7,0…" 51:56 Scott delivers his famous '$7,000 MBA leadership course' deconstruction: do the right thing even when it's hard, full stop. Second, Ryan Nobles on Meet the Press pressed Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas to cite a single example of voter fraud influencing an election outcome; Marshall deflected into unrelated tangents about doctors and pilots needing to be trusted. Scott notes that no one has ever produced evidence that a single election was decided by voter fraud — making Marshall's defense of the SAVE Act fundamentally baseless. Both examples point to the same crisis: elected officials on 6-year terms who refuse to exercise the independence those terms were designed to protect.
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Scott Galloway's win is Bill Maher's Mark Twain Prize, and he treats it as a personal moment. He admits to being too influenced by social media blowback in the past but has tried to say what he means regardless of consequences — and saying he admires Bill Maher generates more blowback than almost anything else he posts. [1] — Scott Galloway "His legacy, although he's a great comedian, I don't think his legacy is comedy. It's defending the proposition that democracy requires conv…" 59:08 Scott's case: if you placed every political pundit on a scale from zero (far right) to 100 (far left), Maher would land at exactly 50, which is why everyone appears to hate him publicly while every podcast host privately wants to be introduced to him. Maher has been in the business for 33 years, built his audience by telling people things they didn't want to hear, and surrounded himself with loyal collaborators who have worked with him for decades — Scott reads this as evidence of deep character. His lasting contribution, Scott argues, isn't comedy but the live demonstration that you can disagree with someone without deciding they are evil. [2] — Scott Galloway "Bill Maher in the business for 33 years: Bill Maher has been in the entertainment business for 33 years and was awarded the Mark Twain Priz…" 56:40 Kara partially endorses the take while flagging Maher's earlier provocations on Islam as real criticism, noting people in her own family question why she appears on his show — to which she says it's none of their business. Scott closes by announcing he's taking his entire family to the July 29th taping.
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Before signing off, Kara adds one more fail: antisemitic chanting directed at California State Senator Scott Wiener in San Francisco the prior week. She carefully distinguishes criticism of Israel — which she says is legitimate and important — from genuine antisemitism, calling this incident clearly the latter and arguing Democrats must not tolerate it. She expresses deep sympathy for Wiener as a hardworking public servant targeted not for any policy position but for who he is. The episode then transitions to a clip from Kara's Cannes Lions conversation with Vox Media CEO Jim Bankoff and New York Times president and CEO Meredith Kopit Levian, in which Levian argues that LLMs will ultimately need high-quality independently produced journalism to function well, making publishers and AI companies natural long-term partners. Scott closes with a warm testimonial about Meredith's 'dreamy boyfriend,' and both hosts sign off with credits and a reminder to subscribe to the YouTube channel.
- EBITDA
- Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization — a proxy for a company's core operating profitability, used here to explain the valuation multiple applied to Comcast's divisions.
- Pure-play
- A company focused on a single line of business, as opposed to a conglomerate; used here to describe what Comcast's separate connectivity and media businesses become after the spinoff.
- CapEx
- Capital Expenditure — money spent on acquiring or maintaining physical assets or major investments; used here to describe OpenAI's massive infrastructure spending commitments.
- S-1
- The registration statement a company files with the SEC before going public, containing detailed financial disclosures; discussed here as the document that would expose OpenAI's losses relative to Anthropic.
- Conglomerate discount
- The tendency of markets to value a diversified company lower than the sum of its parts, because investors penalize the weakest business unit across the whole enterprise.
- Dual-class shares
- A share structure giving certain shareholders (typically founders) disproportionate voting power; cited here as the reason Evan Spiegel can resist pressure to spin off Snap's Spectacles unit.
- Stochastic terrorism
- The use of mass communication to incite random acts of violence or targeted harassment that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable; invoked here to describe the fabricated CPS report against Buttigieg.
- Swatting
- Making a false emergency call to send a heavily armed police response to someone's address; compared here to the Buttigieg CPS incident as an abuse of institutional systems.
- NIMBY / YIMBY
- NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard (opposition to local development); YIMBY = Yes In My Back Yard (pro-housing movement); contrasted here in the context of the bipartisan housing bill.
- Down round
- A funding round in which a company raises money at a lower valuation than a previous round, signaling loss of investor confidence; mentioned as the scenario Altman tried to avoid with guaranteed-return terms.
- Flippening
- Scott Galloway's coinage for the moment Anthropic overtook OpenAI as the dominant AI platform, analogous to a market-leadership flip.
- Turducken
- A dish of a chicken stuffed inside a duck stuffed inside a turkey; used metaphorically here for a conglomerate with mismatched business units crammed together.
- Accretive
- Increasing in value or earnings per share; used here to describe how spinning off assets boosts overall shareholder value.
- Agglomeration
- The clustering or accumulation of different businesses under one corporate entity; used here pejoratively for CEO empire-building.
- Verified yet anonymous credentialing
- A proposed digital identity system that proves a person is a unique human without revealing their identity, suggested as a solution to anonymous bad-faith CPS reports.
- Mark Twain Prize
- The Kennedy Center's lifetime achievement award for American humor, given here to Bill Maher.
- Imperious
- Assuming power or authority without justification; arrogant or domineering — used here to characterize Dario Amodei's personal style.
Chapter 1 · 00:00
Intro, Sponsors & Banter: The AP Profile and Presidential Picks
The episode opens with sponsor reads for Indeed, BetterHelp, and Pure Leaf before Scott and Kara launch into warm self-deprecating banter triggered by an AP profile on Kara. The profile's memorable line — that Scott's 'penchant for vulgarities' makes Kara 'seem almost highbrow' — prompts Scott to invoke Coco Chanel's quote on vulgarity versus poverty. The hosts then free-associate into a presidential fantasy draft: Scott nominates Pete Buttigieg for sheer intellect ('smart intelligence has to make a comeback in the Oval Office'), names Governors Newsom, Shapiro, and Pritzker as strong Democratic options, and gives measured praise to Nikki Haley as a Republican talent trapped by Trump's orbit. Kara picks Mark Cuban before reconsidering, and both land on Jon Ossoff as generating 'Camelot energy.' The riff is light but telegraphs several storylines the episode will return to, including Buttigieg's political future and the broader question of leadership in a leaderless moment.
Claims made here
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BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 74% of Americans believe society still discourages asking for help.
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 74% of Americans believe society still discourages asking for help with mental health.
Chapter 2 · 07:00
Comcast Splits Off NBCUniversal and Sky: Breaking Down the Spinoff
Kara Swisher breaks the news: Comcast is spinning off NBC, Universal Film Studio, theme parks, and Sky into a new publicly traded entity, keeping Xfinity broadband and wireless while retaining a roughly 20% stake in the new entity. Shares jumped 21% in pre-market trading, and the deal is expected to close in about a year. [1] — Kara Swisher "Comcast shares up 21% on spinoff news: Comcast's stock jumped 21% in pre-market trading Monday after announcing the NBCUniversal and Sky sp…" 08:40 Scott Galloway uses the moment to deliver a compact master class in conglomerate theory: CEO compensation surveys (he cites Towers Perrin) create incentives for relentless empire-building, but markets eventually punish diversified companies by assigning the weakest unit's valuation multiple to the whole enterprise — what Scott colorfully calls a 'turducken.' [2] — Scott Galloway "The market has a tendency to do is it looks at the shittiest business 'cause it says there's no synergy here... we're gonna assign that mul…" 10:20 The numbers make the case starkly: last quarter, media revenue grew 40% to nearly $12 billion, theme parks grew 24%, media 61%, studios 21% — while residential connectivity shrank 4%. [3] — Scott Galloway "Comcast media revenue up 40%: Comcast's media division reported a 40% increase in revenue to nearly $12 billion in a single quarter, while …" 11:46 The spinoff creates two pure plays: a cash-generating mature connectivity business and a high-multiple growth business, boosting the combined stock roughly 25%. Scott then pivots to a surprise prediction: Snap, whose stock is down 93% over five years, could triple or quadruple if it spun off its Spectacles unit — Meta gets $400 in market cap per user; Snap gets $17. [4] — Scott Galloway "Snap stock down 93% in 5 years: Snap's stock is down 93% over the last five years despite having 500 million daily users — Scott argues spi…" 16:22 The segment closes with both hosts praising Comcast CEO Brian Roberts and his team as the most underrated management group in media, lamenting that they were locked out of the Warner Bros. Discovery deal but now have a cleaner path to M&A.
Claims made here
Comcast shares jumped 21% in pre-market trading Monday after announcing the NBCUniversal spinoff.
Comcast's media division reported a 40% increase in revenue to nearly $12 billion for the most recent quarter.
Comcast's theme parks grew 24%, media grew 61%, and studios grew 21% in the same quarter that connectivity revenues shrank.
Meta commands approximately $400 in market capitalization per user while Snap gets only $17.
Snap's stock is down 93% over the last five years.
Snap has approximately 500 million daily active users.
Comcast's stock jumped 21% in pre-market trading Monday after announcing the NBCUniversal and Sky spinoff.
Markets assign a company's lowest valuation multiple to its best businesses when they're bundled with bad ones. Comcast's media business grew 40% while connectivity shrank 3% — holding them together was destroying value, so the spinoff unlocks a pure-play growth story.
Comcast's media division reported a 40% increase in revenue to nearly $12 billion in a single quarter, while the connectivity division shrank 3%.
NBCUniversal's theme parks grew 24%, media grew 61%, and studios grew 21% in the same quarter connectivity declined.
Meta commands $400 in market cap per user. Snap gets $17 — for a 500-million-daily-user network with the most advertiser-coveted demographic on earth. The Spectacles unit is the weeping sore dragging the entire valuation down 93% over five years.
Meta commands approximately $400 in market cap per user while Snap gets only $17, illustrating the massive valuation gap.
Snap's stock is down 93% over the last five years despite having 500 million daily users — Scott argues spinning off Spectacles would be a rocket ship.
Snap has 500 million daily users — an audience Scott says is the most attractive for advertisers in history — yet the company's stock is near all-time lows.
Both Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway argue that Comcast's leadership under Brian Roberts is the most underrated management team in all of media. They do the right thing for shareholders, stay out of the headlines, and now have the cleanest shot at M&A in years.
Chapter 4 · 23:10
OpenAI's IPO Delay and the Great Flippening
Kara Swisher opens with the reported news that OpenAI is considering delaying its IPO until next year, noting Sam Altman is reportedly holding out for a $1 trillion valuation despite an $850 billion March valuation, leaked financials showing nearly 8x growth in losses and $34 billion in spending, and a tepid SpaceX IPO complicating the market backdrop. [1] — Kara Swisher "OpenAI losses up nearly 8x in 2025: Leaked OpenAI financials showed losses increasing nearly 8x in 2025, with spending hitting $34 billion." 23:40 Scott Galloway immediately reframes this as an individual company story, not a systemic one — coining 'the great flippening' to describe Anthropic's rapid displacement of OpenAI as the dominant AI platform. [2] — Scott Galloway "We've never seen Avis overtake Hertz this fast. This isn't even Pepsi overtaking Coke. It's like RC Cola one morning is the market leader." 24:57 He argues that CEOs are actively blaming OpenAI models and swapping to Anthropic expecting greater ROI, comparing the market-share flip to 'RC Cola one morning becoming the market leader.' The core IPO problem, Scott contends, is that a side-by-side S-1 comparison would expose two damning facts simultaneously: OpenAI has lost significant momentum to Anthropic, and it's spending cash 'promiscuously' relative to its rival, which projects breaking even by 2030. [3] — Scott Galloway "Anthropic projected to break even by 2030: Despite massive losses, Anthropic projects it will break even by 2030, contrasting with OpenAI's…" 26:55 He predicts the second half of 2026 will be defined by Sam Altman dramatically cutting CapEx commitments to clean up the books before any public offering, and that this pullback will ripple through Oracle, CoreWeave, and SoftBank. Kara and Scott also debate whether Anthropic should move fast while it's on top — Scott says Dario Amodei should race to the public markets immediately.
Claims made here
OpenAI was valued at $850 billion in March 2026.
OpenAI's losses increased nearly 8x in 2025, with spending hitting $34 billion.
Anthropic projects it will break even by 2030.
OpenAI was valued at $850 billion in March 2026, but Sam Altman is reportedly holding out for a $1 trillion valuation for the IPO.
Leaked OpenAI financials showed losses increasing nearly 8x in 2025, with spending hitting $34 billion.
Q4 2025, OpenAI was king. By mid-2026, Anthropic is the dominant enterprise AI platform. CEOs are blaming OpenAI's model and swapping it out for Anthropic expecting greater ROI. Scott Galloway calls this the 'great flippening' — and says it's the crack that signals a coming AI valuation reckoning.
Goldman and JPMorgan reportedly told Sam Altman the numbers aren't ready for public markets. OpenAI lost nearly 8x more in 2025, spent $34B, and is burning cash 'promiscuously' compared to Anthropic, which projects breaking even by 2030. The S-1 comparison would be brutal.
Despite massive losses, Anthropic projects it will break even by 2030, contrasting with OpenAI's open-ended trillion-dollar CapEx commitments.
Chapter 6 · 34:25
Pete Buttigieg's Family Targeted: Stochastic Terrorism and Accountability Online
Kara Swisher describes the deeply disturbing story: an anonymous caller fabricated a tip to CPS claiming Pete Buttigieg's 4-year-old twins were at risk, triggering a Michigan State Police investigation that barred Buttigieg from being alone with his children for 24 hours, with the twins questioned by authorities without either parent present. [1] — Kara Swisher "Buttigieg barred from being alone with twins for 24 hours: Pete Buttigieg was not allowed to be alone with his 4-year-old twins for 24 hour…" 34:38 The report was later confirmed completely fabricated. Kara, noting she knows the Buttigieg family personally — especially Chasten — describes the fear gay parents carry constantly about having their fitness as parents questioned. Scott reframes the incident: this isn't purely a gay issue, it's stochastic terrorism. He describes knowing a straight Midwestern couple who received the same treatment when a high-school grudge led a classmate to file a false CPS report — the neighborhood found out, and the reputational damage was permanent regardless of the investigation's outcome. [2] — Scott Galloway "The internet doesn't have a speech problem, it has an accountability problem. And our fetishization for free speech and anonymity has resul…" 39:22 The hosts identify the structural problem: CPS systems rightly encourage anonymous reporting to capture real abuse, but the same anonymity enables weaponized bad-faith reports with zero consequence for the filer. Scott proposes a solution: verified-yet-anonymous digital credentialing, where a unique digital stamp proves you're a real human without revealing who you are, and malicious filers face investigation after the fact. [3] — Scott Galloway "The answer to weaponized anonymous tips isn't eliminating anonymity — it's creating digital credentials that prove you're a unique human wi…" 37:50 Both hosts close by expressing personal outrage and hope the incident doesn't deter Buttigieg from running in 2028.
Claims made here
Pete Buttigieg was barred from being alone with his 4-year-old twins for 24 hours while a fabricated CPS tip was investigated.
An anonymous tip claiming Pete Buttigieg's 4-year-old twins were at risk forced Michigan State Police to investigate and barred him from being alone with his children for 24 hours. This isn't just a gay-rights story — it's stochastic terrorism enabled by anonymous, consequence-free platforms that the left and right both refuse to fix.
Pete Buttigieg was not allowed to be alone with his 4-year-old twins for 24 hours while a fabricated anonymous CPS tip was investigated.
The answer to weaponized anonymous tips isn't eliminating anonymity — it's creating digital credentials that prove you're a unique human without revealing who you are. If investigation finds no evidence and your tip was malicious, you get investigated. Good-faith reporters stay protected.
Chapter 7 · 40:35
Trump Blocks the Bipartisan Housing Bill
Kara Swisher reports that House Speaker Mike Johnson is sending the landmark housing bill to the White House days after Trump abruptly canceled the bill-signing ceremony. The bill passed both chambers with overwhelming bipartisan support, 358-32 — a ratio Scott Galloway notes is almost unheard of in today's Congress. [1] — Scott Galloway "Housing bill passed 358-32 in Congress: The landmark housing bill passed both houses with overwhelming bipartisan support, 358 to 32, yet T…" 42:22 Trump says he won't sign until Congress passes his SAVE Act requiring photo ID and ending mail-in voting. Kara notes the Constitution provides a path around him: if Trump doesn't sign within 10 days, the bill becomes law; if he vetoes, Congress likely has the votes to override. [2] — Scott Galloway "10% rise in housing prices = 1% drop in birth rates: Every 10% increase in housing prices is associated with a 1% decrease in birth rates, …" 41:30 Scott argues housing affordability is one of America's most consequential crises, referencing Finland's housing-first homelessness strategy — just build cheap housing — and citing research linking every 10% housing price increase to a 1% drop in birth rates, reduced coupling, and lower self-esteem. He characterizes the bipartisan bill as 'weak sauce in specifics but a powerful symbolic movement in the right direction,' and says Trump blocking it is straightforwardly self-defeating — he should put on a tool belt and take credit.
Claims made here
Every 10% increase in housing prices is associated with a 1% decrease in birth rates.
The bipartisan housing bill passed Congress with a 358 to 32 vote.
Under the U.S. Constitution, if the president does not sign a bill within 10 days, it becomes law without a signature.
A bipartisan housing bill passed 358-32 and is effectively veto-proof, but Trump is holding it hostage for his SAVE Act on voter ID. Finland's approach — just build cheap housing — shows 10% housing price increases cut birth rates 1%. Scott Galloway says blocking this bill is simply stupid.
Finland took the approach of simply building cheap housing rather than focusing on mental health or veteran affairs, and dramatically reduced homelessness.
Every 10% increase in housing prices is associated with a 1% decrease in birth rates, illustrating housing's sweeping societal impact.
The landmark housing bill passed both houses with overwhelming bipartisan support, 358 to 32, yet Trump is blocking it to leverage his SAVE Act.
Chapter 9 · 46:10
Fails: Tributes to Om Malik and Ed Daley, Plus the Trump Mining Grift
Kara Swisher opens the wins and fails segment by noting too many fail candidates — including the Trump family mining deal in Kazakhstan where Don, Eric, and the Lutnick family stand to profit, and the ongoing human tragedy in Venezuela. But she chooses to focus on two personal losses. Om Malik, one of the earliest and most influential tech bloggers, died this week after long struggles with heart issues. Kara describes him as one of the most joyful figures in early tech media, someone who had called people on bad behavior long before it was fashionable, and who later became a venture capitalist. Ed Daley, Kara's longtime assistant, also died — a victim of complications from diabetes. Kara describes him as an unsung hero of her business-building years with Walt Mossberg, someone who took her children on camping trips and gave everything to the people around him. Both tributes are deeply personal and reflective of an era in tech media that feels increasingly distant.
Om Malik was one of the first tech bloggers to blend reporting with attitude, calling out the industry before it was cool. Ed Daley was Kara Swisher's longtime assistant who quietly helped build the businesses that became Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher's media empire. Both died this week.
Chapter 10 · 48:55
Win: E. Jean Carroll's Supreme Court Victory
Kara Swisher pivots from mourning to celebration: the Supreme Court rejected Trump's attempt to toss the $5 million E. Jean Carroll sexual abuse verdict. Kara calls this the end of the road on that specific judgment — Trump must pay — and notes it's a notable counterpoint on a day when the Court also ruled against the Trump administration on mail-in ballot issues in Mississippi. She briefly texts Carroll's attorney Robbie Kaplan during the segment to get an update on the ongoing defamation case, which involves a separate approximately $80 million verdict still being disputed. The moment feels cathartic given how long the legal battle has dragged on, and Kara's satisfaction is palpable.
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The Supreme Court rejected Trump's attempt to have the $5 million E. Jean Carroll sexual abuse verdict overturned.
The Supreme Court rejected Trump's attempt to void the E. Jean Carroll $5 million sexual abuse verdict. Kara Swisher calls it the end of the road on that judgment — and notes it comes on the same day the Court handed Trump losses on immigration rulings too.
Chapter 11 · 50:40
Fails: Senator Todd Young's Silence on Mark Kelly and Roger Marshall's Voter Fraud Claims
Scott Galloway's fail segment targets a pattern of Republican senators saying the right thing privately and the wrong thing (or nothing) publicly. First, ABC's John Carl interviewed Senators Todd Young and Mark Kelly and directly asked Young whether Trump's accusation of sedition against Kelly — a combat pilot who flew the space shuttle — was appropriate. Young praised Kelly in a text, said nothing on air. [1] — Scott Galloway "Let me save you $7,000 on the leadership course of any major university. Do the right thing even when it's hard. There, you just saved $7,0…" 51:56 Scott delivers his famous '$7,000 MBA leadership course' deconstruction: do the right thing even when it's hard, full stop. Second, Ryan Nobles on Meet the Press pressed Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas to cite a single example of voter fraud influencing an election outcome; Marshall deflected into unrelated tangents about doctors and pilots needing to be trusted. Scott notes that no one has ever produced evidence that a single election was decided by voter fraud — making Marshall's defense of the SAVE Act fundamentally baseless. Both examples point to the same crisis: elected officials on 6-year terms who refuse to exercise the independence those terms were designed to protect.
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No one has ever been able to provide evidence that a single election has been influenced, much less decided, by voter fraud.
Trump accused combat pilot and astronaut Senator Mark Kelly of sedition. Senator Todd Young privately texted Kelly support but said nothing publicly. Scott Galloway eviscerated this as a $7,000 MBA leadership course failure: do the right thing even when it's hard.
Chapter 12 · 53:50
Win: Bill Maher's Mark Twain Prize
Scott Galloway's win is Bill Maher's Mark Twain Prize, and he treats it as a personal moment. He admits to being too influenced by social media blowback in the past but has tried to say what he means regardless of consequences — and saying he admires Bill Maher generates more blowback than almost anything else he posts. [1] — Scott Galloway "His legacy, although he's a great comedian, I don't think his legacy is comedy. It's defending the proposition that democracy requires conv…" 59:08 Scott's case: if you placed every political pundit on a scale from zero (far right) to 100 (far left), Maher would land at exactly 50, which is why everyone appears to hate him publicly while every podcast host privately wants to be introduced to him. Maher has been in the business for 33 years, built his audience by telling people things they didn't want to hear, and surrounded himself with loyal collaborators who have worked with him for decades — Scott reads this as evidence of deep character. His lasting contribution, Scott argues, isn't comedy but the live demonstration that you can disagree with someone without deciding they are evil. [2] — Scott Galloway "Bill Maher in the business for 33 years: Bill Maher has been in the entertainment business for 33 years and was awarded the Mark Twain Priz…" 56:40 Kara partially endorses the take while flagging Maher's earlier provocations on Islam as real criticism, noting people in her own family question why she appears on his show — to which she says it's none of their business. Scott closes by announcing he's taking his entire family to the July 29th taping.
Bill Maher built an audience by telling everyone something they didn't want to hear. His legacy isn't comedy — it's proving that democracy requires conversation, not just conviction. Scott Galloway calls him a hero and centrist role model who pisses off everybody equally.
Bill Maher has been in the entertainment business for 33 years and was awarded the Mark Twain Prize at the Kennedy Center.
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Comedian and talk show host awarded the Mark Twain Prize at the Kennedy Center, praised by Scott Galloway as a centrist free-speech hero.
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Discussed blocking the bipartisan housing bill, targeting Mark Kelly with sedition accusations, and the E. Jean Carroll Supreme Court loss.
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Former Transportation Secretary discussed as a 2028 presidential prospect targeted by a fabricated anonymous CPS report during Pride Month.
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OpenAI CEO, discussed as holding out for a $1 trillion IPO valuation and pursuing a massive CapEx strategy criticized as unsustainable.
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U.S. Senator and former astronaut/combat pilot accused by Trump of sedition; discussed as a test of Republican leadership spine.
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Anthropic CEO, discussed as having a stronger IPO narrative than Sam Altman and being in a superior market position.
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President and CEO of The New York Times, praised by both hosts from a Cannes Lions conversation about AI and quality journalism.
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Pioneering tech blogger and venture capitalist who died this week, remembered by Kara as a foundational figure in early tech journalism.
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CEO of Comcast, praised by both hosts as a classy and highly competent executive behind the spinoff decision.
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Sexual abuse accuser whose $5 million verdict against Donald Trump was upheld by the Supreme Court, discussed as Kara's win of the week.
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Discussed as reportedly delaying its IPO amid mounting losses, an $850B valuation, and loss of AI market leadership to Anthropic.
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Discussed as the company splitting off NBCUniversal and Sky into a separate publicly traded company, sending shares up 21%.
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Described as having overtaken OpenAI as the dominant enterprise AI platform in what Scott Galloway calls 'the great flippening.'
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The media and entertainment unit being spun off from Comcast, including NBC, Universal Film Studio, theme parks, and Sky.
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Scott Galloway argues Snap's stock, down 93% over 5 years, would triple or quadruple if it spun off its Spectacles hardware unit.
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European satellite broadcasting service being spun off with NBCUniversal rather than staying with Comcast's connectivity business.
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Discussed as a deal Comcast was blocked from winning despite being the 'natural owner'; mentioned as part of broader media M&A landscape.
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Discussed as one of OpenAI's lead underwriters who reportedly advised Sam Altman that the IPO numbers aren't ready for public markets.
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Used as a benchmark comparison showing Meta gets $400 in market cap per user versus Snap's $17.
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Mentioned as a company whose shares fell on news of OpenAI's potential IPO delay due to its heavy CapEx exposure to OpenAI.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
Comcast's media division reported a 40% increase in revenue to nearly $12 billion for the most recent quarter.
Comcast's theme parks grew 24%, media grew 61%, and studios grew 21% in the same quarter that connectivity revenues shrank.
Comcast shares jumped 21% in pre-market trading Monday after announcing the NBCUniversal spinoff.
Snap's stock is down 93% over the last five years.
Meta commands approximately $400 in market capitalization per user while Snap gets only $17.
Snap has approximately 500 million daily active users.
OpenAI's losses increased nearly 8x in 2025, with spending hitting $34 billion.
OpenAI was valued at $850 billion in March 2026.
Anthropic projects it will break even by 2030.
The bipartisan housing bill passed Congress with a 358 to 32 vote.
Every 10% increase in housing prices is associated with a 1% decrease in birth rates.
Pete Buttigieg was barred from being alone with his 4-year-old twins for 24 hours while a fabricated CPS tip was investigated.
Under the U.S. Constitution, if the president does not sign a bill within 10 days, it becomes law without a signature.
BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 74% of Americans believe society still discourages asking for help.
Indeed Sponsored Jobs are 95% more likely to report a hire than non-sponsored jobs.
3.3 million employers worldwide use Indeed to hire.
No one has ever been able to provide evidence that a single election has been influenced, much less decided, by voter fraud.
The Supreme Court rejected Trump's attempt to have the $5 million E. Jean Carroll sexual abuse verdict overturned.