The episode opens with three consecutive sponsor reads before any host content begins. Indeed pitches its Sponsored Jobs product to hiring managers, offering listeners a $75 job credit at indeed.com/podcast. Klaviyo follows, framing its AI agents as the equivalent of two brilliant new employees handling marketing and customer service. CoreWeave closes the pre-show block positioning itself as the essential cloud infrastructure for AI pioneers across medicine, education, film, and science.

Kara Swisher is broadcasting from the Equinox Hotel in New York, and Scott Galloway — home early from a prospective UFC outing to watch the World Cup with his kids — is buzzing about Netherlands vs. Japan and Scotland's surprise 1-0 win over Paraguay. He's even eyeing a trip to Boston with his boys if Scotland advances. Kara, meanwhile, admits she was sitting next to Knicks star Karl-Anthony Towns all day at a Devil Wears Prada event and had no idea who he was, a moment she recounts with self-deprecating delight. Both hosts agree New York feels electric right now — the combination of the Knicks' championship run and the World Cup has the city in a rare collective mood — though Scott laments he's missing it in person.

President Trump's 80th birthday UFC event at the White House drew a who's-who crowd — Zuckerberg, Joe Rogan, cabinet secretaries, and a very happy-looking Lindsey Graham — but was tucked behind a Paramount+ paywall, a fact Kara found deeply ironic for an event billed as being 'for the people.' ^{[1] — Kara Swisher "President Trump's 80th birthday UFC event at the White House mixed flyovers and ring girls with Bud Light ads and a Paramount+ paywall. A f…" 05:08 Play} She quotes Washington Post columnist Monica Hass, who captured the tonal chaos perfectly: patriotism and bloodlust, history and commerce, sailors dancing to YMCA and ring girls in sequined stars and stripes. Then a fighter made a racist, misogynistic cheap shot at Michelle Obama, and everything else became a footnote. Scott argues the event still worked as a political win for the White House — and as a distraction from more consequential news — while acknowledging the fighter's remarks were inexcusable. He frames the UFC spectacle as filling a cultural vacuum Democrats have left around aspirational masculinity. Kara counters by holding up the Knicks as the better model: teamwork, sacrifice, women celebrated in the stands, a city healed. Dana White's tepid 'I hate that kind of nonsense' defense, both hosts agree, was the least he could do.

The Justice Department announced it found the $110 billion Paramount-Warner Bros. Discovery deal unlikely to harm competition, removing the biggest federal obstacle to a merger David Ellison says is on track to close by September. ^{[1] — Kara Swisher "The DOJ cleared the roughly $110 billion Paramount-Warner Bros. Discovery merger before career staffers could even formally weigh in — thos…" 12:08 Play} But the process was striking: career DOJ staff who were actually leaning toward suing to block the deal were sidelined before they could formally weigh in. Kara reads that as the Ellison-Trump connection making the fix inevitable. Scott is less alarmed from a pure antitrust standpoint, noting the combined company still won't rival YouTube's viewership or match the revenues of the tech giants. What did send a chill down his spine was learning Mark Thompson is being considered to run CBS News — a reminder that the Ellisons would now own CNN. Blue-state attorneys general are proving more combative than the federal government, and European regulators are still weighing the deal. The post-merger debt load, Kara warns, is the thing every media executive she's spoken to is most worried about.

Scott presses Kara on her CNN future, and she states it plainly: she doesn't trust the Ellisons to make good editorial decisions, she doesn't want to work for tech people who own news organizations, and she's leaving when her contract is up — hoping they'll let her out early. She draws a direct parallel to leaving Rupert Murdoch's empire, framing it as simply who she is. Scott jokes that he, unlike Kara, is absolutely available — 'an expensive whore' — and that the Ellisons have his number. Kara confirms they already called him and says she defended him in that conversation. The exchange is as revealing about the pair's different relationships with institutional media as anything they've said publicly. Both agree, however, that the podcasting business they've built offers better economics than TV anyway — 'we are TV, just with much better economics.'

Three consecutive sponsor reads fill the mid-show break. Atio pitches itself as the antidote to CRM horror stories, connecting email, calls, and product data to give teams actionable context; 8,000 companies are already using it, with a free trial at adio.com/pivot. Teleport follows with a striking data point from its 2026 Infrastructure Identity Survey: organizations most confident in their AI deployments have more than twice the security incident rate of those that aren't, 72% versus 33%, making the case for purpose-built identity and access management in AI environments. NetSuite closes the block with a pitch for its NetSuite Next platform — AI baked into every function of a business management suite trusted by over 43,000 customers — and offers a free trial for companies with revenues in the seven figures at netsuite.ai/pivot.

Fox Corporation's $22 billion deal for Roku was the move Scott Galloway says he didn't see coming but immediately understood: 100 million households, first-party data at scale, and a direct advertiser relationship that cable companies always sat in front of. ^{[1] — Scott Galloway "Fox's $22 billion Roku acquisition gives it first-party data across 100 million households and a direct viewer relationship that cable neve…" 21:00 Play} The combined entity — Fox's live news, sports, and Tubi content married to Roku's platform — would become the third-largest U.S. TV player by viewing share, putting genuine pressure on YouTube and Netflix. Fox projects $400 million in run-rate synergies. Roku founder Anthony Wood joins Fox's board, and Fox shareholders end up owning 73% of the merged company. Scott adds an eye-catching historical footnote: Fox sold its Roku shares at $58 in 2020 to fund the Tubi acquisition and is now buying the whole company at $160 a share. He walks through Roku's financials — $4.7 billion in revenue up 15%, platform revenue of $4.1 billion up 18%, first GAAP profitable year, $80 million in Q4 net income — and argues Roku is arguably the most important media company most people have never heard of. Kara salutes Anjali Sud at Tubi and the quality of executives Fox tends to develop.

Scott Galloway had called it: SpaceX would manufacture a 20% first-day pop, and at 19.something percent it was almost perfectly on target, though the stock kept climbing another 11% the following day. ^{[1] — Scott Galloway "SpaceX engineered a near-perfect 20% first-day IPO pop by floating just 5% of shares against unprecedented demand — a trick Scott Galloway …" 28:50 Play} The mechanism was unprecedented manufactured scarcity: only 5% of shares floated against tens of billions in demand — nothing like it has ever been seen in IPO history. Shares hit $177 on debut day, pushing market cap to $2.32 trillion and crossing Elon Musk over the trillion-dollar net-worth threshold. Over 500 million shares traded on day one. Gina Rinehart committed over a billion, Cathie Wood's ARK bought $500 million-plus. Scott celebrates the genuine economic benefits — 14 new Texas billionaires, a surge in philanthropy likely to follow liquidity events, inspiration for space-sector entrepreneurs, and $7.5 billion in venture funding now flowing into the sector. He also issues a critical governance note: different classes of shares and soft lockups tied to platform trading are technically not allowed and raise real questions. His sharpest point lands on the irony that Uncle Sam — specifically a 2008 NASA grant that saved SpaceX from bankruptcy — is the best venture capitalist in history, just as Trump seeks to cut NASA's budget by over 20%. Kara pushes back on the expected philanthropy, warning Musk-era billionaires are more likely to channel wealth into political activism. Scott agrees Musk can probably decide who the next president is — he spent $250 million last time and is now worth infinitely more.

The second major sponsor block opens with Vanguard pitching financial advisors on its bond fund lineup — over 80 funds, actively managed by a 200-person global team, with a collective philosophy rather than star manager model. Vanguard's record is available at vanguard.com/audio. DeleteMe follows with a personal privacy pitch: Kara Swisher describes her own experience seeing how much personal data was aggregated about her on the DeleteMe dashboard, recommending the service with a 20% discount at joindelete.me.com/pivot using code PIVOT. The block closes with a Verizon Business segment featuring the owner of Roebling Sporting Club in Brooklyn talking about the FIFA World Cup, community-building in sports bars, and the need for reliable connectivity to manage simultaneous games.

On a Friday, the Trump administration issued an order giving Anthropic just 90 minutes to take down its flagship models, citing a claim — apparently originating from Amazon's Andy Jassy — that a researcher used the model to assist in cyberattacks. ^{[1] — Kara Swisher "The Trump administration ordered Anthropic to take down its most powerful AI models in 90 minutes, citing a national security threat. Kara …" 43:40 Play} Anthropic dispatched staff to Washington to dispute the action, arguing correctly that the same jailbreaks exist across all major AI models, not just theirs. Kara and Scott are skeptical of the official rationale: Dario Amodei has been a persistent thorn in the administration's side, refusing to go along with requests around weapons development and privacy violations, and both hosts read the shutdown as a political hit coordinated with pro-administration Silicon Valley interests. Scott relays that Ian Bremmer told him the Anthropic shutdown was a bigger topic at the G7 than the Iran memo — because foreign companies and NATO defense departments that had deeply integrated Anthropic into their workflows suddenly faced an arbitrary kill switch. Scott simultaneously applauds crisp government action on AI safety and says he doesn't trust these particular people's motives. Kara calls David Sacks' justification pompous and unconvincing. The hosts also note the separate but related wave of lawsuits hitting AI companies, including a Florida suit against OpenAI and a multi-state AG investigation, as the more structurally serious legal threat.

The Anthropic episode crystallizes for Scott why AI needs a bipartisan regulatory framework: not because any one model is uniquely dangerous, but because the absence of clear, universal rules creates a system where political donors get protection and political enemies get shut down. He proposes a panel of economists, philosophers, and experts — analogous to the FDA drug approval process but faster — with a mandatory 30–90 day pre-release screening for every AI model, applied consistently to every company. The predictability itself would be good for business, he argues; companies want to know the rules. What no company should have to navigate is the implicit question of whether they need to attend a UFC fight to stay in the government's good graces. Scott also flags the next political fight he sees coming: restricting Chinese open-weight models in the U.S., which would have a tariff-like feel and benefit companies like France's Mistral. Kara agrees that the safety concerns building among parents and consumers represent the more durable threat to the AI industry's reputation.

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Kara uses the wins and fails segment to honor what she genuinely sees as a good effort — Meta providing navigation glasses to blind veterans at the White House UFC event, an initiative pushed by newly hired Dina Powell — while lamenting that it was entirely drowned out by one fighter's grotesque comments about Michelle Obama. She notes Dana White also sits on Meta's board, connecting the dots of why Meta was there at all. She thinks the glasses technology — not just Meta's Ray-Bans but the broader category — will be genuinely transformative for blind people, and she wants to see Meta pursue these kinds of initiatives in non-partisan settings where they won't get sucked into the vortex of Trump spectacle. It's a rare moment of measured praise for Meta from Kara, balanced by frustration that good work got stolen by a bad scene.

Scott Galloway praises UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer's announcement that TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Snapchat, Facebook, and X will all be banned for users under 16 starting spring 2027 — a move he calls a win not just for teen mental health but for democracy itself. ^{[1] — Scott Galloway "UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced the world's strictest teen social media law, banning all major platforms for users under 16. Scott…" 57:18 Play} He marshals the evidence: one week off social media cuts anxiety by 16%, depression by 25%, insomnia by 15%, and Britain's existing Online Safety Act has already cut porn site visits by a third while raising child age-check encounters from 30% to 47%. He then pivots to his fail: the false American dichotomy that forces voters to choose between robust capitalism and a functional social safety net. After visits to Stockholm and Amsterdam, he's convinced that dichotomy is a myth — Sweden grows at 2.5%, has produced Spotify, Klarna, and Ericsson, and has no visible homelessness in its capital. ^{[2] — Scott Galloway "After visiting Stockholm and Amsterdam, Scott Galloway declares America's core economic myth busted: you don't have to choose between dynam…" 1:02:25 Play} The Netherlands hosts ASML and Europe's data center hub. Spotify executives who'd moved to Silicon Valley have moved back to Sweden, happily paying higher taxes because they trust the government to spend the money well. Kara adds that Korea supports the same point. Both hosts close with disgust at the fighter's Michelle Obama remarks before plugging Peter Chernin's interview on Kara's other podcast.

Kara teases a clip from her conversation with Peter Chernin, producer of the hit film Backrooms and one of Hollywood's most respected executives, who cautions the industry against its current 'find me my YouTuber' mania. Chernin's point is that their film took three years — chasing the idea, developing the script, a year in production — and success came from betting on a specific piece of content and talent, not a format or a follower count. Scott and Kara sign off with plans to reconvene in Cannes. The production credits roll, listing producers Lara Namath, Zoe Marcus, Taylor Griffin, Todd Wiseman, engineers Ernie and Jatad, and executive producer Nishat Khorwas. A second Verizon Business FIFA World Cup ad featuring the Roebling Sporting Club in Brooklyn plays out the very end of the episode.