Blanche oversaw the creation of a $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and Obama-era DOJ overreach, including January 6 defendants.
From Trump’s Attorney to Attorney General: The Rise of Todd Blanche
The man who defended Trump in criminal court now faces Senate confirmation as AG — and the loyalty that got him there may be exactly what kills his nomination.
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From Trump’s Attorney to Attorney General: The Rise of Todd Blanche
The man who defended Trump in criminal court now faces Senate confirmation as AG — and the loyalty that got him there may be exactly what kills his nomination.
TL;DR
Todd Blanche, a former federal prosecutor who bet his career on defending Donald Trump, now faces a Senate confirmation hearing as Trump's pick for attorney general — and the very moves that earned Trump's loyalty may doom his confirmation. Glenn Thrush of the NYT traces Blanche's journey from the Southern District of New York to white-shoe law firm partner to Trump's personal defense lawyer [1] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche was a 'vanilla federal prosecutor' from the Southern District of New York who cashed out into a white-shoe firm in 2017. Boris Epsh…" 04:20 , describing a "stall and brawl" strategy that ran out the clock on federal indictments [2] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche's strategy for Trump's federal cases was almost comically simple: delay. File brief after brief, run the clock toward the 2024 elec…" 10:00 . The central paradox: what Blanche did to win Trump's trust — overseeing the controversial $1.8 billion "anti-weaponization" fund and an IRS immunity deal for Trump's family — may cost him crucial Republican Senate votes [3] — Glenn Thrush "$1.8B anti-weaponization fund: Blanche oversaw creation of a controversial $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and O…" 03:31 .
As Todd Blanche's Senate confirmation hearings begin, NYT Justice Department reporter Glenn Thrush traces the unlikely rise of Trump's attorney general pick — from vanilla SDNY prosecutor to Trump's personal criminal defense lawyer to the most powerful unconfirmed figure in Washington.
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Dan Barry opens the episode not with news, but with conviction. A three-decade veteran of The New York Times, Barry frames the paper's mission in simple terms: follow the facts wherever they lead, regardless of who wants them buried. It's a purposeful throat-clear before a story about a Justice Department that has, by the episode's own account, drifted far from that same principle. Barry closes with a direct appeal to listeners to support that mission through a Times subscription.
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Michael Barbaro sets the scene from New York on Wednesday, July 15, 2026: the Senate Judiciary Committee is convening to consider Todd Blanche as the next attorney general, and the political air is charged. The episode promises something more than a confirmation preview — it's a character study of the man who transformed himself from federal prosecutor to Trump's most indispensable legal ally. Glenn Thrush, the Times' DOJ reporter, is introduced as the narrator of this unlikely American story.
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Glenn Thrush opens by diagnosing the political moment: Todd Blanche is in a precarious position. Over the past six weeks, at Trump's prompting, Blanche oversaw the creation of a $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and Obama-era DOJ overreach — a move Senate Republicans found so objectionable they summoned Blanche for a bruising hour-long dressing-down. [1] — Glenn Thrush "$1.8B anti-weaponization fund: Blanche oversaw creation of a controversial $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and O…" 03:31 Thrush notes this dynamic is new: early Trump cabinet nominees got easy passes from a Republican Senate eager to hand the president authority. That era is over. With midterm elections looming, the gravitational pull of electoral accountability is making senators far more willing to break ranks and ask hard questions.
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Before Blanche became a household name, he was, by Thrush's account, a 'pretty vanilla' federal prosecutor at the Southern District of New York — the 'Yankee Stadium' of federal prosecutors' offices — who made the predictable midlife pivot to a prestigious white-shoe law firm in 2017. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche was a 'vanilla federal prosecutor' from the Southern District of New York who cashed out into a white-shoe firm in 2017. Boris Epsh…" 04:20 The pivot toward Trump came through Boris Epshteyn, the president's longtime legal adviser, who enlisted Blanche to help defend Paul Manafort, Trump's first campaign chairman. That single assignment embedded Blanche in the rotation of Trump criminal defense lawyers and set in motion a chain of decisions that would reshape his entire career. The Southern District background gave him credibility; the Manafort case gave him access; the next choice would give him everything.
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The most consequential fork in Blanche's road came after the 2020 election. Trump looked finished. His legal team was in disarray, his political brand damaged. Most lawyers with options would have quietly moved on. Instead, Blanche insisted on staying — over the explicit objections of his own firm's leadership. He broke from the firm, founded his own, and tied his professional fate entirely to Donald Trump's political resurrection. [1] — Glenn Thrush "After Trump lost in 2020, Blanche had every reason to walk away. Instead, he defied his firm's leadership, started his own firm, and threw …" 05:03 Thrush frames this as more than loyalty: it was a calculated bet born from what he calls 'FOMO' — the fear of missing out on a historic moment. Not everyone gets to represent a former president. Blanche was willing to sacrifice a comfortable, successful career for the chance at something larger. And in Trump's world, the willingness to take that kind of risk in a dark hour is the truest measure of a person's worth.
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When Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg indicted Trump on 34 counts in the hush money case, Blanche stepped into the spotlight. The trial's fulcrum was Michael Cohen — the former Trump fixer who claimed to have arranged the Stormy Daniels payment — and Blanche went after him in classic criminal defense style. [1] — Glenn Thrush "In the hush money trial, Blanche cross-examined Michael Cohen with relentless aggression — calling him a flat-out liar and reminding the ju…" 07:07 He called Cohen a flat-out liar, and then reminded the jury that Cohen had once called Trump a dictator who 'belonged in a cage like an animal' — an attempt to convince jurors Cohen's testimony was motivated by personal vendetta rather than truth. Trump didn't prevail. But Blanche's willingness to fight, his refusal to back down, his tenacity in what seemed like an uphill case — all of it impressed the president. Thrush reports that behind the scenes, their relationship was candid and at times fiery, with Trump not afraid to yell and Blanche not afraid to push back. It was a professional partnership built on mutual respect, even within a fundamentally unequal power dynamic.
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With Trump's classified documents case in Florida and January 6 case in Washington both live, Blanche stepped in as the manager of Trump's broader legal defense. His strategy was the 'stall and brawl' — file motions, write briefs that read like campaign social media posts, push hearings back week after week, month after month, and run the clock as close to November 2024 as possible. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche's strategy for Trump's federal cases was almost comically simple: delay. File brief after brief, run the clock toward the 2024 elec…" 10:00 It doesn't require legal genius, Thrush notes — it requires patience and nerve. And it worked spectacularly. Trump won the 2024 election, and with a sitting president immune from federal indictment, both cases were dropped. The bet Blanche made at Trump's lowest moment had just paid the largest possible dividend: a seat at the top of the very institution that had tried to prosecute his client.
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The episode pauses for a cross-promotional segment for 'The Last Twelve Weeks,' a new podcast co-produced by Serial Productions, The Marshall Project, and The New York Times. Host Maurice Chammah describes receiving an email from a defense lawyer representing David Wood, a man who had been on death row in Texas for more than 30 years and had exhausted all appeals. The lawyer's plan: prove that one of Texas' most notorious alleged serial killers was actually innocent — something no one had managed to do in three decades. The segment closes with the hook that the defense has very little time to make that case.
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Blanche wanted to be attorney general. He didn't get it — at first. Instead, he became deputy AG, a position Thrush calls probably the most powerful job in Washington most people have never heard of. And his actual influence was amplified further by the weakness of his nominal boss: Pam Bondi, described as a 'second choice' attorney general who came in unprepared. [1] — Glenn Thrush "The first weeks of Blanche's DOJ tenure were a 'torrent' of firings. The National Security Division was dismantled. The Public Integrity Un…" 14:15 That vacuum gave Blanche extraordinary operational control from the start. Working alongside his right-hand man Emile Bove, he immediately began executing the core elements of Trump's DOJ agenda: demoting, marginalizing, and firing career staff connected to the Jack Smith investigations or otherwise flagged as anti-Trump. The first six weeks were a 'torrent' of such stories, Thrush says — entire divisions hollowed out, experienced staff replaced or simply removed.
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The scale of Blanche's early DOJ purge was staggering. The National Security Division — one of the most consequential parts of the entire department — was essentially dismantled. The Public Integrity Unit, which investigates public corruption and formed the core of Jack Smith's team, was reduced from 30 staffers to just 2. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Public Integrity Unit cut from 30 to 2: Under Blanche's leadership, the Public Integrity Unit — the core of Jack Smith's team — was slashed…" 15:44 Thrush makes a pointed observation about what drove this: Blanche hadn't merely adopted Trump's legal arguments about DOJ overreach as a defense strategy. He had absorbed them as genuine conviction. Having spent years arguing that the DOJ was weaponized against Trump, he entered office believing it. The career staff weren't neutral civil servants to be managed — they were, in his view, a 'nest of vipers' to be cleared out. The department's leadership was effectively isolated from the rest of the building, and Blanche had reshaped its character within weeks.
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As demands poured in from the White House and the MAGA ecosystem to pursue Trump's adversaries, Blanche occupied an almost impossible middle position. He was publicly committed to executing Trump's vision of a DOJ that investigates perceived enemies — but privately, he was also a former federal prosecutor with a clear-eyed sense of what juries would actually do. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche occupied an almost impossible middle position — fielding demands from the White House and MAGA allies to go after Trump's enemies, …" 17:00 The clearest example was his advice against prosecuting New York AG Leticia James (indicted on mortgage fraud) and former FBI Director James Comey (indicted for allegedly lying to Congress). Blanche told Trump directly: you have the authority to do this, but your chances of getting a conviction in Northern Virginia are practically zero. Trump proceeded anyway. And as Thrush notes, Blanche's initial advice has since been vindicated — though the episode doesn't dwell on the fallout, the prosecutions have not gone well.
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Just when it seems the picture of Blanche is coming into focus, Thrush introduces a new layer of complexity: the Jeffrey Epstein files. The Times has reported that Blanche and Pam Bondi personally briefed Trump on exactly how many times he appeared in the files and in what context — an extraordinary act of disclosure that raises deep questions about whose interests Blanche was serving. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche and Pam Bondi reportedly briefed Trump on precisely how many times and in what context he was mentioned in the Jeffrey Epstein file…" 20:31 This puts Blanche in an acutely ambiguous position: the man tasked with overseeing federal law enforcement going directly to the president to tell him what federal documents say about him. Thrush also describes Blanche's internal battle with Ed Martin, the White House's anti-weaponization working group leader, who was publicly discussing grand jury testimony in violation of DOJ rules. Newly obtained emails show Blanche pushing back hard — and ultimately sidelining Martin — as evidence that he exercised at least some moderating force.
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The confirmation math is merciless. One Republican vote on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all it takes to bottle up Blanche's nomination and kill it without a full Senate vote. [1] — Glenn Thrush "One Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all it takes to kill Blanche's nomination in committee. Senator John Cornyn — ousted fr…" 24:29 Thrush identifies three senators as potential stumbling blocks. John Cornyn of Texas, ousted in his primary largely because Trump turned on him, has refused to commit to supporting Blanche and is deeply troubled by a deal Blanche signed granting immunity to Trump and his family for tax investigations. Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, another lame duck with nothing to lose, has shown a willingness to buck the administration. And Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, chronically independent and openly critical of Trump, has given no indication of which way she'll go. Unlike the anti-weaponization fund, which Blanche has tried to walk back, he has not backed away from the IRS immunity deal — because Trump cares about it. That refusal may prove fatal to his confirmation.
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The episode reaches its climax in a single, devastating observation from Thrush: what Blanche did to earn Trump's nomination — overseeing the anti-weaponization fund, signing the IRS immunity deal, dismantling career DOJ staff — may be the very thing that prevents Senate Republicans from confirming him. [1] — Glenn Thrush "What Blanche did to win Trump's trust — the $1.8 billion fund, the IRS immunity deal, the wholesale purge of DOJ career staff — may be the …" 28:20 Barbaro sharpens the paradox: Blanche's argument to senators is essentially 'trust me, things could be much worse without me.' But the things that make him the least bad option are also the things senators find disqualifying. Thrush closes with a reminder that even Republicans who broadly support Trump retain a residual expectation that the DOJ should be more than a presidential instrument — that it should provide legitimacy, defend rule of law, and not be 'undermined and degraded.' Whether Blanche can thread that needle in his confirmation hearing remains genuinely uncertain.
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The episode closes with two significant headlines. In unusually personal testimony before Congress, Justices Elena Kagan and Amy Coney Barrett described how escalating threats have affected their lives and families — Kagan noting a 38% expected increase in threats this year, following a 25% spike the year before. The security funding request reflects a court under genuine physical siege. Separately, the Times reports that the Trump administration has ordered federal immigration officers to largely end the practice of stopping vehicles during operations, following two shooting deaths in Texas and Maine over the past week — a significant operational shift in how immigration enforcement is being carried out.
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Michael Barbaro delivers the standard Daily sign-off, and the episode closes with a full production credits roll — producers, editors, music composers, and the episode's engineer all named. The credits are followed by a promotional spot for 'Enjoy Illinois Let's Go,' a new podcast from the state of Illinois hosted by Katie Sheehan, featuring interviews with comedian Andy Richter and chef Gail Gand. It's a jarring tonal shift from the weighty material of the episode, but a fitting reminder that even the most serious journalism has its commercial ecosystems.
- White shoe law firm
- A colloquial term for elite, prestigious law firms — typically large, old-line firms based in major cities known for corporate and high-stakes legal work.
- Southern District of New York (SDNY)
- One of the most powerful federal prosecutors' offices in the US, covering Manhattan and surrounding areas; known for handling major financial crime, terrorism, and political corruption cases.
- Stall and brawl
- A legal strategy described in this episode as filing successive motions and appeals primarily to delay trial proceedings as long as possible, used by Blanche to push Trump's federal cases past the 2024 election.
- Anti-weaponization fund
- A $1.8 billion fund created under Blanche's oversight to compensate purported victims of what Trump called Biden and Obama-era DOJ overreach, including January 6 defendants.
- Deputy Attorney General
- The second-highest position in the US Department of Justice, responsible for day-to-day operations of the department; often more operationally powerful than the Attorney General.
- Public Integrity Unit
- A DOJ division that investigates public corruption by government officials; also formed the core of special counsel Jack Smith's investigative team.
- Jack Smith
- The special counsel appointed to investigate Donald Trump's handling of classified documents and his actions surrounding January 6; his investigations were central to the DOJ purge under Blanche.
- Senate Judiciary Committee
- The Senate committee that holds confirmation hearings for federal judges and the Attorney General; a nominee blocked here cannot proceed to a full Senate vote.
- Lame duck senator
- An elected official who has lost their bid for reelection or chosen not to seek reelection, and therefore serves out the remainder of their term without electoral accountability.
- Boris Epshteyn
- Donald Trump's longtime political and legal adviser who connected Trump's orbit with outside counsel including Todd Blanche via the Paul Manafort defense team.
- Imbibed
- To absorb or assimilate ideas deeply, as if drinking them in; used here to describe how Blanche fully internalized Trump's political arguments about DOJ persecution.
- Bulwark
- A defensive barrier or safeguard; used here by Glenn Thrush to describe Senate Republicans' expectation that the DOJ should protect rule of law rather than serve as a political instrument.
- Acquiescence
- Passive acceptance or agreement without active protest; used to describe Blanche's acceptance of Trump's view of the DOJ as an extension of presidential will.
- Grand jury testimony
- Witness statements given before a grand jury during a criminal investigation; subject to strict secrecy rules — publicly disclosing it, as Ed Martin allegedly did, violates DOJ regulations.
- Annals
- Historical records or chronicles of events over time; used here in the phrase 'the annals of the department' to mean the entire recorded history of the DOJ.
Chapter 3 · 02:05
The $1.8 Billion Fund and the Skeptical Senate
Glenn Thrush opens by diagnosing the political moment: Todd Blanche is in a precarious position. Over the past six weeks, at Trump's prompting, Blanche oversaw the creation of a $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and Obama-era DOJ overreach — a move Senate Republicans found so objectionable they summoned Blanche for a bruising hour-long dressing-down. [1] — Glenn Thrush "$1.8B anti-weaponization fund: Blanche oversaw creation of a controversial $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and O…" 03:31 Thrush notes this dynamic is new: early Trump cabinet nominees got easy passes from a Republican Senate eager to hand the president authority. That era is over. With midterm elections looming, the gravitational pull of electoral accountability is making senators far more willing to break ranks and ask hard questions.
Claims made here
Senate Republicans called Blanche in for approximately an hour and grilled and lambasted him over the $1.8 billion fund in late May.
Blanche oversaw the creation of a $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and Obama-era DOJ overreach — and Senate Republicans called him in and grilled him for an hour, calling it totally unacceptable. This is the backdrop to his confirmation hearing, where the outcome is genuinely uncertain.
Blanche oversaw creation of a controversial $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and Obama-era DOJ overreach, angering Senate Republicans.
Chapter 4 · 04:20
Blanche's Origins: From the SDNY to Trump's Orbit
Before Blanche became a household name, he was, by Thrush's account, a 'pretty vanilla' federal prosecutor at the Southern District of New York — the 'Yankee Stadium' of federal prosecutors' offices — who made the predictable midlife pivot to a prestigious white-shoe law firm in 2017. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche was a 'vanilla federal prosecutor' from the Southern District of New York who cashed out into a white-shoe firm in 2017. Boris Epsh…" 04:20 The pivot toward Trump came through Boris Epshteyn, the president's longtime legal adviser, who enlisted Blanche to help defend Paul Manafort, Trump's first campaign chairman. That single assignment embedded Blanche in the rotation of Trump criminal defense lawyers and set in motion a chain of decisions that would reshape his entire career. The Southern District background gave him credibility; the Manafort case gave him access; the next choice would give him everything.
Claims made here
Todd Blanche was described as a 'pretty vanilla federal prosecutor' from the Southern District of New York who left for a white-shoe law firm in 2017.
Blanche defied his law firm's leadership to represent Trump after the 2020 election loss and started his own firm.
Blanche was a 'vanilla federal prosecutor' from the Southern District of New York who cashed out into a white-shoe firm in 2017. Boris Epshteyn pulled him into the Trump orbit through the Paul Manafort defense — and that cameo changed everything.
After Trump lost in 2020, Blanche had every reason to walk away. Instead, he defied his firm's leadership, started his own firm, and threw in his lot with Trump at Trump's lowest ebb. That loyalty became the foundation of everything that followed.
Over his law firm's objections, Blanche left a prestigious white-shoe firm to start his own firm and represent Trump after the 2020 election loss — when Trump looked like a losing cause.
In the hush money trial, Blanche cross-examined Michael Cohen with relentless aggression — calling him a flat-out liar and reminding the jury Cohen had once called Trump a dictator who 'belonged in a cage like an animal.' Trump didn't win the case, but Blanche's fight deeply impressed him.
Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg indicted Donald Trump on 34 counts in the hush money case involving Stormy Daniels, which Blanche defended.
Chapter 5 · 07:10
The Big Bet: Leaving His Firm to Go All In With Trump
The most consequential fork in Blanche's road came after the 2020 election. Trump looked finished. His legal team was in disarray, his political brand damaged. Most lawyers with options would have quietly moved on. Instead, Blanche insisted on staying — over the explicit objections of his own firm's leadership. He broke from the firm, founded his own, and tied his professional fate entirely to Donald Trump's political resurrection. [1] — Glenn Thrush "After Trump lost in 2020, Blanche had every reason to walk away. Instead, he defied his firm's leadership, started his own firm, and threw …" 05:03 Thrush frames this as more than loyalty: it was a calculated bet born from what he calls 'FOMO' — the fear of missing out on a historic moment. Not everyone gets to represent a former president. Blanche was willing to sacrifice a comfortable, successful career for the chance at something larger. And in Trump's world, the willingness to take that kind of risk in a dark hour is the truest measure of a person's worth.
During his representation of Trump, Blanche switched from the Democratic to the Republican Party and relocated to Florida, near Mar-a-Lago.
Chapter 6 · 10:00
The Hush Money Trial: Cross-Examining Michael Cohen
When Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg indicted Trump on 34 counts in the hush money case, Blanche stepped into the spotlight. The trial's fulcrum was Michael Cohen — the former Trump fixer who claimed to have arranged the Stormy Daniels payment — and Blanche went after him in classic criminal defense style. [1] — Glenn Thrush "In the hush money trial, Blanche cross-examined Michael Cohen with relentless aggression — calling him a flat-out liar and reminding the ju…" 07:07 He called Cohen a flat-out liar, and then reminded the jury that Cohen had once called Trump a dictator who 'belonged in a cage like an animal' — an attempt to convince jurors Cohen's testimony was motivated by personal vendetta rather than truth. Trump didn't prevail. But Blanche's willingness to fight, his refusal to back down, his tenacity in what seemed like an uphill case — all of it impressed the president. Thrush reports that behind the scenes, their relationship was candid and at times fiery, with Trump not afraid to yell and Blanche not afraid to push back. It was a professional partnership built on mutual respect, even within a fundamentally unequal power dynamic.
Claims made here
Blanche's stall and brawl strategy delayed Trump's federal cases week after week, month after month, until Trump won reelection and the cases were thrown out.
The federal government cannot indict a sitting president, which is why Trump's federal cases fell away after his reelection.
Blanche's strategy for Trump's federal cases was almost comically simple: delay. File brief after brief, run the clock toward the 2024 election, write legal documents like campaign social media posts. It doesn't seem sophisticated — but it worked. The cases were ultimately thrown out.
Chapter 8 · 14:15
Ad Break: The Last Twelve Weeks Podcast
The episode pauses for a cross-promotional segment for 'The Last Twelve Weeks,' a new podcast co-produced by Serial Productions, The Marshall Project, and The New York Times. Host Maurice Chammah describes receiving an email from a defense lawyer representing David Wood, a man who had been on death row in Texas for more than 30 years and had exhausted all appeals. The lawyer's plan: prove that one of Texas' most notorious alleged serial killers was actually innocent — something no one had managed to do in three decades. The segment closes with the hook that the defense has very little time to make that case.
Claims made here
The Public Integrity Unit at DOJ, the core of Jack Smith's team, was reduced from 30 to 2 staffers under Blanche's initial leadership.
The first weeks of Blanche's DOJ tenure were a 'torrent' of firings. The National Security Division was dismantled. The Public Integrity Unit went from 30 staffers to 2. Blanche had so deeply internalized Trump's 'witch hunt' narrative that he had little sympathy for the people he was firing.
Under Blanche's early tenure, the DOJ's National Security Division — one of the department's most important units — was essentially dismantled.
Under Blanche's leadership, the Public Integrity Unit — the core of Jack Smith's team — was slashed from 30 staffers to just two.
Chapter 9 · 16:03
Blanche at the DOJ: Building Power Through a Weak Boss
Blanche wanted to be attorney general. He didn't get it — at first. Instead, he became deputy AG, a position Thrush calls probably the most powerful job in Washington most people have never heard of. And his actual influence was amplified further by the weakness of his nominal boss: Pam Bondi, described as a 'second choice' attorney general who came in unprepared. [1] — Glenn Thrush "The first weeks of Blanche's DOJ tenure were a 'torrent' of firings. The National Security Division was dismantled. The Public Integrity Un…" 14:15 That vacuum gave Blanche extraordinary operational control from the start. Working alongside his right-hand man Emile Bove, he immediately began executing the core elements of Trump's DOJ agenda: demoting, marginalizing, and firing career staff connected to the Jack Smith investigations or otherwise flagged as anti-Trump. The first six weeks were a 'torrent' of such stories, Thrush says — entire divisions hollowed out, experienced staff replaced or simply removed.
Blanche occupied an almost impossible middle position — fielding demands from the White House and MAGA allies to go after Trump's enemies, while also trying to filter out what was legally hopeless. He was simultaneously Trump's enforcer and his last line of defense against unwinnable cases.
Chapter 10 · 17:20
The DOJ Purge: National Security, Public Integrity, and Career Staff
The scale of Blanche's early DOJ purge was staggering. The National Security Division — one of the most consequential parts of the entire department — was essentially dismantled. The Public Integrity Unit, which investigates public corruption and formed the core of Jack Smith's team, was reduced from 30 staffers to just 2. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Public Integrity Unit cut from 30 to 2: Under Blanche's leadership, the Public Integrity Unit — the core of Jack Smith's team — was slashed…" 15:44 Thrush makes a pointed observation about what drove this: Blanche hadn't merely adopted Trump's legal arguments about DOJ overreach as a defense strategy. He had absorbed them as genuine conviction. Having spent years arguing that the DOJ was weaponized against Trump, he entered office believing it. The career staff weren't neutral civil servants to be managed — they were, in his view, a 'nest of vipers' to be cleared out. The department's leadership was effectively isolated from the rest of the building, and Blanche had reshaped its character within weeks.
Claims made here
Blanche advised Trump that prosecuting Leticia James and James Comey had virtually zero chance of resulting in an actual conviction.
Blanche warned Trump that prosecuting Leticia James and James Comey would likely fail — advice that proved correct but was ultimately ignored.
Chapter 11 · 19:55
Blanche as Trump's Legal Gatekeeper: Advising on the Limits of Power
As demands poured in from the White House and the MAGA ecosystem to pursue Trump's adversaries, Blanche occupied an almost impossible middle position. He was publicly committed to executing Trump's vision of a DOJ that investigates perceived enemies — but privately, he was also a former federal prosecutor with a clear-eyed sense of what juries would actually do. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche occupied an almost impossible middle position — fielding demands from the White House and MAGA allies to go after Trump's enemies, …" 17:00 The clearest example was his advice against prosecuting New York AG Leticia James (indicted on mortgage fraud) and former FBI Director James Comey (indicted for allegedly lying to Congress). Blanche told Trump directly: you have the authority to do this, but your chances of getting a conviction in Northern Virginia are practically zero. Trump proceeded anyway. And as Thrush notes, Blanche's initial advice has since been vindicated — though the episode doesn't dwell on the fallout, the prosecutions have not gone well.
Claims made here
Blanche and Pam Bondi briefed Trump on precisely how many times and in what context he was mentioned in the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Blanche and Pam Bondi reportedly briefed Trump on precisely how many times and in what context he was mentioned in the Jeffrey Epstein files — a deeply ambiguous role that is likely to generate sharp questions at the confirmation hearing.
Chapter 12 · 22:20
The Epstein Files and Blanche's Ambiguous Role
Just when it seems the picture of Blanche is coming into focus, Thrush introduces a new layer of complexity: the Jeffrey Epstein files. The Times has reported that Blanche and Pam Bondi personally briefed Trump on exactly how many times he appeared in the files and in what context — an extraordinary act of disclosure that raises deep questions about whose interests Blanche was serving. [1] — Glenn Thrush "Blanche and Pam Bondi reportedly briefed Trump on precisely how many times and in what context he was mentioned in the Jeffrey Epstein file…" 20:31 This puts Blanche in an acutely ambiguous position: the man tasked with overseeing federal law enforcement going directly to the president to tell him what federal documents say about him. Thrush also describes Blanche's internal battle with Ed Martin, the White House's anti-weaponization working group leader, who was publicly discussing grand jury testimony in violation of DOJ rules. Newly obtained emails show Blanche pushing back hard — and ultimately sidelining Martin — as evidence that he exercised at least some moderating force.
Newly obtained emails show Blanche reining in Ed Martin, the White House's anti-weaponization working group leader, for publicly discussing grand jury testimony and violating DOJ rules. Blanche eventually sidelined Martin — his strongest argument that he exercised a genuine moderating influence.
Glenn Thrush stated that the Department of Justice has less autonomy and independence than at any point in its history under the Trump-Blanche arrangement.
Chapter 13 · 23:55
The Confirmation Math: One Vote Can Sink Him
The confirmation math is merciless. One Republican vote on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all it takes to bottle up Blanche's nomination and kill it without a full Senate vote. [1] — Glenn Thrush "One Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all it takes to kill Blanche's nomination in committee. Senator John Cornyn — ousted fr…" 24:29 Thrush identifies three senators as potential stumbling blocks. John Cornyn of Texas, ousted in his primary largely because Trump turned on him, has refused to commit to supporting Blanche and is deeply troubled by a deal Blanche signed granting immunity to Trump and his family for tax investigations. Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, another lame duck with nothing to lose, has shown a willingness to buck the administration. And Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, chronically independent and openly critical of Trump, has given no indication of which way she'll go. Unlike the anti-weaponization fund, which Blanche has tried to walk back, he has not backed away from the IRS immunity deal — because Trump cares about it. That refusal may prove fatal to his confirmation.
Claims made here
Only one Republican vote on the Senate Judiciary Committee is needed to kill Blanche's nomination by boxing it in committee.
John Cornyn was ousted in his primary and Trump was the reason, having turned against Cornyn for insufficient enthusiasm in endorsing him in 2024.
Blanche signed a deal granting immunity to Donald Trump and his family for tax investigations, which is a major sticking point for Senator Cornyn.
Under current law, Blanche can remain as acting attorney general indefinitely until Trump leaves office even without Senate confirmation.
One Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all it takes to kill Blanche's nomination in committee. Senator John Cornyn — ousted from his primary partly due to Trump — has refused to commit to supporting Blanche, and the IRS immunity deal for Trump's family is the sticking point. The math is tight.
It only takes one Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee to vote against Blanche to kill the nomination by boxing it in committee.
Blanche signed a deal granting immunity to Donald Trump and his family for tax investigations — a major sticking point for Senator John Cornyn.
Under the law, Blanche can remain acting attorney general indefinitely even without Senate confirmation. But confirmation matters deeply — to Blanche personally and to Trump, who views Senate approval as a stamp of legitimacy for the power he considers central to his presidency.
Under current law, Blanche can remain as acting attorney general indefinitely until Trump leaves office even if not confirmed by the Senate.
Chapter 14 · 27:05
The Central Paradox: What Got Blanche Here May Undo Him
The episode reaches its climax in a single, devastating observation from Thrush: what Blanche did to earn Trump's nomination — overseeing the anti-weaponization fund, signing the IRS immunity deal, dismantling career DOJ staff — may be the very thing that prevents Senate Republicans from confirming him. [1] — Glenn Thrush "What Blanche did to win Trump's trust — the $1.8 billion fund, the IRS immunity deal, the wholesale purge of DOJ career staff — may be the …" 28:20 Barbaro sharpens the paradox: Blanche's argument to senators is essentially 'trust me, things could be much worse without me.' But the things that make him the least bad option are also the things senators find disqualifying. Thrush closes with a reminder that even Republicans who broadly support Trump retain a residual expectation that the DOJ should be more than a presidential instrument — that it should provide legitimacy, defend rule of law, and not be 'undermined and degraded.' Whether Blanche can thread that needle in his confirmation hearing remains genuinely uncertain.
What Blanche did to win Trump's trust — the $1.8 billion fund, the IRS immunity deal, the wholesale purge of DOJ career staff — may be the very thing that prevents Senate Republicans from confirming him. Even Trump's own senators still expect the DOJ to be a bulwark for rule of law.
Chapter 15 · 29:23
Headlines: Supreme Court Threats and Immigration Stops
The episode closes with two significant headlines. In unusually personal testimony before Congress, Justices Elena Kagan and Amy Coney Barrett described how escalating threats have affected their lives and families — Kagan noting a 38% expected increase in threats this year, following a 25% spike the year before. The security funding request reflects a court under genuine physical siege. Separately, the Times reports that the Trump administration has ordered federal immigration officers to largely end the practice of stopping vehicles during operations, following two shooting deaths in Texas and Maine over the past week — a significant operational shift in how immigration enforcement is being carried out.
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Justice Elena Kagan told Congress the Supreme Court expects a 38% increase in threats against justices this year, following a 25% increase last year.
The Trump administration ordered federal immigration officers to largely end the practice of stopping vehicles during operations after two shooting deaths over the past week.
Justice Elena Kagan told Congress the Supreme Court expects a 38% increase in threats this year, following a 25% increase last year.
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Trump's nominee for attorney general and current acting AG; former defense attorney who represented Trump in criminal cases.
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US President whose legal and political fate is intertwined with Blanche's career arc and DOJ leadership.
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New York Times Justice Department reporter who has covered Blanche's rise and is interviewed about the confirmation hearing.
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White House-installed anti-weaponization working group leader who clashed with Blanche over DOJ rules and was eventually sidelined.
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Republican senator from Texas ousted in his primary; the most likely Republican to block Blanche's confirmation in committee.
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Former Trump lawyer and star witness in the hush money trial; Blanche's aggressive cross-examination of Cohen impressed Trump.
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Attorney General described as unprepared for the job, making Blanche more powerful than a typical deputy AG.
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Special counsel who investigated Trump; his investigative team formed the core of the Public Integrity Unit that Blanche gutted.
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Former FBI director indicted for allegedly lying to Congress; Blanche advised Trump the prosecution had near-zero chance of conviction.
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New York state attorney general indicted on mortgage fraud charges; Blanche had warned Trump the prosecution was unlikely to succeed.
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Supreme Court Justice who appeared alongside Kagan to testify before Congress about security funding for justices.
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Trump's longtime legal adviser who connected Blanche with the Trump criminal defense team through the Paul Manafort case.
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Supreme Court Justice who testified to Congress about a 38% expected increase in threats against justices.
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Former Federal Reserve chair; Blanche reportedly helped dissuade Trump from pursuing a DOJ investigation into Powell over Fed headquarters renovations.
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Independent-minded Republican senator from Alaska who has been noncommittal about supporting Blanche's confirmation.
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Trump's first campaign chairman whose criminal defense case first brought Blanche into the Trump orbit.
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The federal department Blanche is nominated to lead as attorney general, described as having lost historic levels of independence.
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The Senate committee holding Blanche's attorney general confirmation hearings, where one Republican vote could kill the nomination.
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Elite federal prosecutors' office where Blanche began his career; described as the 'Yankee Stadium' of US attorneys' offices.
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Blanche oversaw the creation of a $1.8 billion fund to compensate purported victims of Biden and Obama-era DOJ overreach, including January 6 defendants.
Senate Republicans called Blanche in for approximately an hour and grilled and lambasted him over the $1.8 billion fund in late May.
The Public Integrity Unit at DOJ, the core of Jack Smith's team, was reduced from 30 to 2 staffers under Blanche's initial leadership.
Todd Blanche was described as a 'pretty vanilla federal prosecutor' from the Southern District of New York who left for a white-shoe law firm in 2017.
Blanche defied his law firm's leadership to represent Trump after the 2020 election loss and started his own firm.
Blanche's stall and brawl strategy delayed Trump's federal cases week after week, month after month, until Trump won reelection and the cases were thrown out.
The federal government cannot indict a sitting president, which is why Trump's federal cases fell away after his reelection.
Blanche advised Trump that prosecuting Leticia James and James Comey had virtually zero chance of resulting in an actual conviction.
Blanche and Pam Bondi briefed Trump on precisely how many times and in what context he was mentioned in the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Only one Republican vote on the Senate Judiciary Committee is needed to kill Blanche's nomination by boxing it in committee.
John Cornyn was ousted in his primary and Trump was the reason, having turned against Cornyn for insufficient enthusiasm in endorsing him in 2024.
Blanche signed a deal granting immunity to Donald Trump and his family for tax investigations, which is a major sticking point for Senator Cornyn.
Under current law, Blanche can remain as acting attorney general indefinitely until Trump leaves office even without Senate confirmation.
Justice Elena Kagan told Congress the Supreme Court expects a 38% increase in threats against justices this year, following a 25% increase last year.
The Trump administration ordered federal immigration officers to largely end the practice of stopping vehicles during operations after two shooting deaths over the past week.
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