There has been an 80-year cover-up of non-human intelligent life by elements of the US government since at least the late 1940s.
UFO Roundtable: CIA Physicist Proves Aliens Exist
A CIA-funded quantum physicist and a documentarian with access to Marco Rubio claim the US has secretly recovered non-human craft and bodies since 1947 — and that a sitting president is finally moving to tell the world.
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UFO Roundtable: CIA Physicist Proves Aliens Exist
A CIA-funded quantum physicist and a documentarian with access to Marco Rubio claim the US has secretly recovered non-human craft and bodies since 1947 — and that a sitting president is finally moving to tell the world.
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Cast
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Director and producer of The Age of Disclosure documentary; primary guest arguing for UAP cover-up existence.
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Quantum physicist, CIA/NSA consultant, and Stargate program founder; expert witness on UAP physics and remote viewing.
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US Secretary of State and National Security Adviser; participated in The Age of Disclosure and cited as key figure enabling Trump's declassification directive.
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Co-founder of OSAP and former director of the UAP Task Force; went on record saying he personally saw non-human beings and craft.
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US President who issued a historic declassification directive in February ordering federal agencies to release evidence of non-human intelligent life and UAP.
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Former US President; cited for saying 'they're real' about aliens in an interview, which Trump said was a disclosure of classified information.
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CEO of SpaceX and Starlink; discussed as someone who may know more about UAPs than he is legally allowed to disclose due to unacknowledged special access programs.
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Aerospace entrepreneur and founder of Bigelow Aerospace with two space stations in orbit; employed Hal Puthoff as chief science advisor and co-initiated the OSAP UAP investigation program.
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The number-one UAP whistleblower; reported to the Intelligence Community Inspector General that he was being punished and having clearances revoked for disclosing UAP information.
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Former Director of National Intelligence; appeared in The Age of Disclosure alongside Rubio, making the point that lack of imagination is the greatest intelligence failure.
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Central Intelligence Agency; alleged co-leader of the Legacy Program, original funder of the Stargate remote-viewing program, and key player in UAP information gatekeeping.
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Alleged secret US government program managing recovered non-human craft and bodies since the 1940s, operating outside Congressional and White House oversight.
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Declassified CIA/DIA-funded remote-viewing program that ran for over two decades; trained Army intelligence officers and briefed CIA Director Bill Casey.
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Aerospace company founded by Robert Bigelow, which co-initiated the OSAP UAP investigation program and employed Hal Puthoff as chief science advisor.
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Elon Musk's rocket company; discussed in the context of whether Musk's aerospace work gives him access to UAP knowledge through unacknowledged special access programs.
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Research institution where Dr. Hal Puthoff was based when the CIA approached him to investigate ESP, leading to the Stargate remote-viewing program.
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Dan Farah's documentary about UAP disclosure, featuring testimony from Rubio, military, and intelligence officials; cited as catalyst for Trump's declassification directive.
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New Mexico crash site of an alleged 1947 non-human craft; multiple documentary subjects went on record saying the crash was real and that non-human technology and bodies were recovered.
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Factual claims made this episode, and whether a source was named.
Crashed UAP craft have been recovered by elements of the US government, and in some cases the crashed craft contained non-human bodies.
At least four separate types of non-human life have been reported by people involved in UAP crash recoveries.
UAPs have hovered over US nuclear missile sites and actually switched the missiles off.
A UAP hovering over a Soviet ballistic missile base caused the control system to begin a nuclear launch countdown for 15 seconds with no human input.
Jay Stratton, former director of the UAP Task Force and a Senior Executive Service official, went on record stating he personally saw non-human beings and non-human craft with his own eyes.
The most notable evidence in Trump's first UAP declassification tranche was a 1972 Apollo mission photograph of a triangle-shaped craft hovering above the moon, authenticated by the UAP Task Force.
The CIA held a meeting in the late 1940s where officials agreed to spread disinformation to discourage public inquiry into UAPs, including funding films that portrayed aliens as ridiculous.
The CIA-funded Stargate remote-viewing program ran for over two decades, grew to millions of dollars in funding, and trained Army intelligence officers at Fort Meade.
Two CIA-trained remote viewers pinpointed a crashed Soviet plane in Africa to within three miles of its actual location, leading to the CIA retrieving the aircraft, a story later confirmed by President Jimmy Carter.
A 30-day controlled experiment where seven individuals trained over a weekend in remote viewing predicted silver futures with enough accuracy to generate $260,000 in profits, with six of the seven producing reliable data.
A psychic at Stanford was able to halt and double the oscillation frequency of a Navy quantum chip inside superconducting electromagnetic shielding, which was specifically engineered to be immune to all outside influence.
47% of Americans believe aliens have definitely or probably visited Earth, according to a YouGov poll.
The UAP disclosure issue is the most bipartisan issue in Washington DC, with Democrats and Republicans who have reviewed classified data fully aligned on its importance.
Marco Rubio is the only person since Henry Kissinger (who held both roles for two years) to simultaneously serve as both US Secretary of State and National Security Adviser.
Quantum physicist Dr. Hal Puthoff and documentary filmmaker Dan Farah make the case that the US government has concealed non-human intelligent life since the 1940s, that crashed craft and bodies have been recovered, and that a secret "Legacy Program" operated for decades outside presidential and Congressional oversight. They detail UAPs switching off nuclear missiles, Trump's historic declassification directive, Elon Musk's possible legal constraints on disclosure, and the CIA's two-decade remote-viewing program Stargate. The single most useful takeaway: the most compelling argument for disclosure is now bipartisan — even political adversaries like Rubio and Clapper agree it's real and urgent.
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Dr. Hal Puthoff (quantum physicist, NSA/CIA consultant) and Dan Farah (director of 'The Age of Disclosure') join Steven Bartlett to discuss the alleged 80-year cover-up of non-human intelligent life, recovered craft and bodies, the secret 'Legacy Program', UAP activity over nuclear sites, Trump's declassification directive, and the Pentagon's remote viewing program Stargate.
- UAP
- Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena — the US government's current official term for objects in the sky (or sea) that cannot be identified, previously called UFOs.
- Legacy Program
- A deeply hidden, decades-old classified program alleged to have operated since the 1940s, outside Congressional and White House oversight, managing recovered non-human craft and bodies.
- OSAP
- Office of Space and Aerospace Phenomena — a US government UAP investigation program co-founded by Jay Stratton and Jim McCasky that ran from 2008 to 2010.
- Unacknowledged Special Access Program (USAP)
- A classified program so secret that participants are legally required to deny even the program's existence if asked about it.
- Transmedium
- Capable of operating across multiple physical environments — in the context of UAPs, craft that move seamlessly between space, air, and water.
- Remote viewing
- A CIA/DIA-funded practice in which trained individuals attempt to perceive information about a distant location using the mind alone, without sensory contact.
- Stargate
- The declassified US government remote-viewing program that ran for over two decades, training army intelligence officers and generating actionable intelligence for the CIA.
- Spacetime metric
- In general relativity, the mathematical description of the curvature and geometry of spacetime; engineering it could theoretically enable warp drives or wormholes.
- Warp bubble
- A theoretical region of warped spacetime surrounding a craft that isolates it from external physical forces, explaining UAP maneuverability and transmedium travel.
- ESP (Extrasensory Perception)
- The claimed ability to perceive information beyond the normal senses; in the Stargate program, the term used before 'remote viewing' became standard.
- Quantum entanglement
- A quantum-mechanical phenomenon where two particles remain correlated regardless of distance; cited in the episode as a possible physical basis for remote viewing.
- ATIP
- Airborne Transmedium Intelligence and Phenomena office — one of the successive US government UAP investigation bodies following OSAP.
- Foo fighters
- Term used by WWII pilots for unidentified orbs or lights that flew alongside fighter aircraft; considered early historical UAP sightings.
- Declassification directive
- President Trump's February 2025 executive instruction ordering federal agencies to declassify evidence of non-human intelligent life and UAP.
- Stigma (in UAP context)
- A deliberate cultural narrative—allegedly seeded by a CIA meeting in the late 1940s—designed to discredit UAP witnesses and researchers and suppress public inquiry.
- Bipartisan
- Supported by members of both major political parties; used here to emphasise that UAP disclosure has unusual cross-party agreement in Washington.
- Transmedium travel
- Movement of a craft across different physical media (air, water, space) without apparent physical transition; a key feature of reported UAP behaviour.
- Senior Executive Service
- The top tier of the US federal civil service, representing less than 1% of all federal employees, roughly equivalent in seniority to a two-star admiral or general.