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JRE MMA Show #183 with Rico Verhoeven

Explore episode Aug 4, 2026
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The Pyramids, His Mother, and Full Circle

JRE MMA Show #183 with Rico Verhoeven · Aug 4, 2026 Society & Culture

Rico's mother died during his fight camp. While clearing her house, his family found photos of her standing at the Egyptian pyramids from 30 years earlier — the exact fight venue he was preparing for. He made the same photos before the fight. Then he punched the ground and the pyramids lit up for the first time that night.

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UFC or Boxing? Rico's Free Agent Decision

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Rogan asks directly: is UFC still possible? Rico is candid. The UFC contacted him and discussed a Derrick Lewis fight, but the money gap was always the problem — and after the Usyk performance, that gap has only grown larger. He also reveals that just two weeks before signing the Usyk deal, he had an MMA offer on the table to fight Francis Ngannou on the MVP card. The MMA offer kept improving. But he looked in the mirror and chose legacy over the easier money: a kickboxer winning a world heavyweight boxing title would be the greater achievement. Now that he has the boxing experience and the elevated profile, boxing makes complete sense as his lane. He acknowledges he'd need the right deal and the right fight, but the trajectory is clear.

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