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After WeWork collapsed, Neumann went from 1,000 friends to 10 — five of them family. Then Andreessen called from a Stanford field during COVID walks — not to do a deal, just to check in. That call, and the way Andreessen reframed Neumann's psychological stage, eventually became the foundation of a $350M+ partnership.
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The backstory to the a16z-Neumann partnership is less romantic than mythology might suggest, and more systematic. Andreessen and Horowitz had been following WeWork from the beginning — their portfolio companies were customers — but Benchmark had backed Neumann, and there was a clear territorial line. Then a top global real estate executive told Andreessen something he couldn't forget: only two people in history had ever successfully branded commercial real estate — one of them was the current President of the United States and the other was Adam Neumann [1] — Marc Andreessen "There's only two people in the world who have ever successfully differentiated, branded and differentiated commercial real estate. One of t…" 19:56 . The insight reframed everything. While newspapers were attacking Neumann, the people who actually understood the real estate industry were saying the opposite. Andreessen and Horowitz also bring their long-standing philosophical framework to bear: the best predictor of a founder overcoming future challenges is having already overcome profound challenges. Thomas Watson Sr. founded IBM in his 40s, years after the federal government convicted him of antitrust violations. Some people get punched hard and never get up. Others use it. Neumann's second lesson resonated too: what's often behind the phone going silent after a public failure is what Andreessen calls 'over-socialisation' — the mob-think that makes people abandon someone because they're afraid of association, not because they've formed a real judgment.
A top real estate executive told Marc Andreessen that only two people in history had successfully branded and differentiated commercial real estate: Donald Trump and Adam Neumann.
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After WeWork collapsed, Neumann says he went from 1,000 friends to 10, five of whom were family members, illustrating the social devastation of public failure.
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