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Eric Jang – Building AlphaGo from scratch

Explore episode May 15, 2026

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Why doesn't MCTS work for LLMs

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Eric and Dwarkesh discuss why MCTS fails for LLM reasoning: language's vast token space violates the discrete finite-action assumption, and value estimation is much harder than in Go.

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Why MCTS Doesn't Work for LLMs

Eric Jang – Building AlphaGo from scratch · May 15, 2026 Technology

Language has billions of possible next tokens — the PUCT exploration heuristic assumes you'll visit the same node multiple times, but an LLM will almost never generate the exact same token sequence twice. The discrete action assumption breaks.

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