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This Is Your Brain on Pollution (Update)

Explore episode Jun 10, 2026

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The Brain-Game Competition: Dubner vs. Levitt vs. Duckworth

At 30:00 · chapter starts 26:50

In one of the episode's most entertaining segments, Dubner convenes a supposedly friendly Lumosity 'Fit Test' with two of his smartest friends — Steve Levitt, economist and Freakonomics co-author, and Angela Duckworth, psychologist and author of Grit. Levitt pre-registers his excuse (18 years of bad sleep), Duckworth pre-registers hers (she's a 'pretty shit sleeper'), and Dubner notes his broken air conditioning. The three play three games: one for mental flexibility, one for memory, and Train of Thought for attention — which Levitt calls 'one of the hardest things I've ever done in my life' while simultaneously scoring in the 97th percentile for his age group. Levitt wins with an average of the 92nd percentile; Duckworth and Dubner tie around the 71st–72nd percentile. Only then does Dubner reveal the experiment's true purpose.

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