People who sold the Iraq and Iran wars as serious foreign policy experts — Lindsey Graham, the FDD, Marco Rubio — face zero accountability for being catastrophically wrong. Meanwhile, progressives who opposed the wars could never get on a Sunday show. That asymmetry needs to end.
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Ben walks through the comparison nobody wants to make but everybody should. Before the war, the US demanded absolute zero enrichment, no proxy support, and geographic caps on Iranian missiles that would prevent them reaching Israel. The MOU delivers none of these. Worse, under the Obama JCPOA that Trump spent years trashing, Iran received not a single dollar of frozen assets until after it shipped out enriched uranium, removed centrifuges, destroyed its plutonium reactor core, and accepted inspections. Now Iran gets $10 billion just from being able to sell oil again, before making any nuclear commitments whatsoever. Ben's verdict: the body language of this deal is one of complete surrender. [1] — Ben Rhodes "The body language of the deal is one of surrender. It's one of Iran won this war, we failed in our objectives. Trump wants out." 12:05 Trump is far more worried about the Strait staying closed and economies collapsing than about looking weak. That fear — not strength — is why Iran holds all the leverage. Tommy and Ben then pivot to accountability, calling out the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, and David Sanger for having sold a war that has now proven catastrophically wrong — and demanding they be run out of Washington's foreign policy ecosystem.
Ten years ago, 90% of tech media coverage was relentlessly negative and Kalanick felt he couldn't speak freely. Today, the rise of independent podcasters and Elon Musk buying Twitter has fundamentally changed the game — and it's why he's finally willing to talk.
Kay Classman, 28, was arrested for repeatedly posing as a 16-year-old and enrolling in Bronx high schools across multiple districts. She wasn't a predator — just someone so sad and lonely she wanted her lost childhood back. That's somehow sadder.
Disney, Meta, and Paramount have collectively paid Trump roughly $60 million to settle what Galloway calls nuisance lawsuits — all routed to his presidential library. Newsrooms are folding. The White House is handpicking press pool participants. This is what the end of a free press looks like.
One cheap fake documentary made by a teenager in his mother's basement convinced 16% of Americans that 9/11 was an inside job. Social media didn't invent conspiracy — it just gave it a rocket engine.
A progressive organization with a stated mission to destroy Turning Point USA received millions from ActBlue and is now publicly pushing the narrative that TPUSA insiders and Israel murdered Charlie Kirk. Andrew Wilson traced the network of accounts all amplifying the same conspiracy in perfect unison.
The microphone-bomb theory fails on every physical front: no smoke, no ignition, mic on the wrong side of the wound. And the .30-06 rifle round used is extensively documented by the US Army — it does not always produce a through-and-through wound. Wilson argues this is a well-studied projectile with well-understood behavior.
Andrew Wilson publicly offered Candace Owens $300,000 to debate her theory that Israel and TPUSA murdered Charlie Kirk. She refused. He argues that flat-earthers will debate anyone, but Kirk conspiracy theorists won't defend their claims under scrutiny.
Erika Kirk became the CEO of TPUSA while grieving her husband's murder in public, and now faces tens of thousands accusing her of conspiring to kill him. Andrew Wilson calls it mind-boggling psychological torture. The sparklers at the memorial weren't suspicious — they were a grieving widow doing her best in an impossible situation.
Joe Rogan and Andrew Wilson watch a bystander video of the Corey Ruiz police shooting in Madison, Wisconsin live on air. The video is so blurry they initially think a female officer fired the fatal shots. They later learn a male officer did, after Ruiz allegedly pulled a knife and stabbed officers. Their conclusion: you cannot have a hot take on a story you don't understand yet.
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