JD Vance called the deal process 'cool' because of the relationships built with IRGC officials. The Obama administration proved you could talk to Iran without bombing them first. Vance and Trump just discovered what Ben Rhodes did in 2015 — after an unnecessary war.
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The episode shifts to a media-criticism segment as Tommy and Ben play a striking juxtaposition: Trump calling Iranian leaders 'rational, strong, smart people' and JD Vance enthusing about the 'cool' friendships built with IRGC officials during the deal process, cut against Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin describing the Iranian government as 'millenarian psychotics.' Ben Rhodes notes the first group is simply rediscovering what the Obama administration proved in 2015 — that you can negotiate with Iran — but only after launching an unnecessary war to get there. He argues both framings are wrong: Iran is neither irrational fanatics nor warm partners, but sophisticated strategic actors who need to be handled with a mixture of strength and diplomacy. He also criticizes a compliant media that amplified JCPOA lies without fact-checking, and Congress for being aggressive toward diplomatic agreements but passive about authorizing wars. The Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act — which passed 98-1 — made deals harder while Congress stood aside as the president launched an illegal war.
Ten years ago, 90% of tech media coverage was relentlessly negative and Kalanick felt he couldn't speak freely. Today, the rise of independent podcasters and Elon Musk buying Twitter has fundamentally changed the game — and it's why he's finally willing to talk.
Kay Classman, 28, was arrested for repeatedly posing as a 16-year-old and enrolling in Bronx high schools across multiple districts. She wasn't a predator — just someone so sad and lonely she wanted her lost childhood back. That's somehow sadder.
Disney, Meta, and Paramount have collectively paid Trump roughly $60 million to settle what Galloway calls nuisance lawsuits — all routed to his presidential library. Newsrooms are folding. The White House is handpicking press pool participants. This is what the end of a free press looks like.
One cheap fake documentary made by a teenager in his mother's basement convinced 16% of Americans that 9/11 was an inside job. Social media didn't invent conspiracy — it just gave it a rocket engine.
A progressive organization with a stated mission to destroy Turning Point USA received millions from ActBlue and is now publicly pushing the narrative that TPUSA insiders and Israel murdered Charlie Kirk. Andrew Wilson traced the network of accounts all amplifying the same conspiracy in perfect unison.
The microphone-bomb theory fails on every physical front: no smoke, no ignition, mic on the wrong side of the wound. And the .30-06 rifle round used is extensively documented by the US Army — it does not always produce a through-and-through wound. Wilson argues this is a well-studied projectile with well-understood behavior.
Andrew Wilson publicly offered Candace Owens $300,000 to debate her theory that Israel and TPUSA murdered Charlie Kirk. She refused. He argues that flat-earthers will debate anyone, but Kirk conspiracy theorists won't defend their claims under scrutiny.
Erika Kirk became the CEO of TPUSA while grieving her husband's murder in public, and now faces tens of thousands accusing her of conspiring to kill him. Andrew Wilson calls it mind-boggling psychological torture. The sparklers at the memorial weren't suspicious — they were a grieving widow doing her best in an impossible situation.
Joe Rogan and Andrew Wilson watch a bystander video of the Corey Ruiz police shooting in Madison, Wisconsin live on air. The video is so blurry they initially think a female officer fired the fatal shots. They later learn a male officer did, after Ruiz allegedly pulled a knife and stabbed officers. Their conclusion: you cannot have a hot take on a story you don't understand yet.
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