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Trump’s Top Spy Has One Job: Revenge

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Bill Pulte: HVAC Man to America's Top Spy

Trump’s Top Spy Has One Job: Revenge · Jun 3, 2026 Government

Trump installed Bill Pulte — an HVAC entrepreneur and meme stock promoter — as acting Director of National Intelligence, overseeing 18 intelligence agencies with the full power of the NSA. There is no reason to do this other than giving a proven political weapon access to the most powerful surveillance apparatus in history to go after Trump's enemies.

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Intro: Knicks, Ben's Book, and Today's Agenda

At 6:55 · chapter starts 2:53

Tommy Vietor opens by teasing Ben Rhodes about two simultaneous wins: the Knicks reaching the NBA Finals and his second book entering the world. The conversation quickly turns promotional — Tommy urges listeners to buy 'All We Say' and help Ben beat Fox & Friends co-host Rachel Campos-Duffy on the New York Times bestseller list. They run through the episode agenda, which covers Bill Pulte's DNI appointment, the Iran war, Lebanon ceasefire tensions, Gaza, the Ukraine drone barrage, far-right influencers in Moscow, Colombia's runoff election, MAGA corruption stories, and Ben's interview with AI policy expert Aya Ibrahim. Ben also plugs upcoming book events at the 92nd Street Y and in LA.

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