All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Podbit · All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Anthropic's Digital God, Pope vs AI, Job Loss Narrative Flips, Open Source Crackdown Coming?

Explore episode May 29, 2026

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The Great AI Jobs Debate: Dario and Sam Altman flip their rhetoric, Goldman CEO says no AI job apocalypse

At 59:58 · chapter starts 59:56

The episode's final and most contentious segment opens with Fortune reporting that both Sam Altman and Dario Amodei have walked back their AI job apocalypse predictions ahead of anticipated IPOs. Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon's NYT op-ed — arguing AI will automate 25% of work hours rather than eliminate 25% of jobs, and that bank tellers increased after ATMs — has shifted the narrative completely. Sacks lays out the empirical case: the Yale Budget Lab found no discernible AI labor disruption over three years; US unemployment sits at 4.3%, at or below full employment; software developer job postings are up 15% year over year to a 3-year high; and GitHub logged 1.1 billion code commits in one month versus 1 billion for all of last year. He argues that AI is triggering a bespoke software boom, with industries that never hired engineers now doing so. Calacanis pushes back hard: Amazon's Andy Jassy explicitly said the company would forgo 600,000 future hires; Waymo has 3,000 vehicles displacing drivers; Meta's 8,000-person layoff was paired with AI monitoring software. Chamath offers the middle path: most current layoffs are really reversals of post-COVID overhiring, with AI serving as a convenient two-letter scapegoat. But he concedes that regulated industries — pharma, aerospace, finance — will not see the startup disruption Calacanis predicts. Bill Gurley closes with his characteristic optimism: competition will ensure productivity gains flow to consumers as cheaper goods, not to obscene corporate margins. The skills trades remain a desperate shortage, and he plugs Mike Rowe Works' $16 million scholarship program for plumbers, welders, and electricians as a more useful solution than government retraining programs.

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