The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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Anti-Aging Expert: This Reverses Gray Hair & Boosts Your Energy!

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Mitochondria Were Once Bacteria — and They Made Social Life Possible

Anti-Aging Expert: This Reverses Gray Hair & Boosts Your En… · Jul 2, 2026 Science

About 1.5 billion years ago, a small oxygen-using bacterium was engulfed by a larger anaerobic cell. That merger gave the host cell the ability to perceive its environment differently — and crucially, to become social. Before mitochondria, cells were selfish foragers. After, they could divide labor and build bodies.

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Cancer, Diabetes, and the Warburg Effect

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With a clear framework established, Picard applies it to the most feared diseases. Diabetes, he argues, is fundamentally a disease of energy resistance: too much glucose presses energy onto a system whose mitochondria can't keep up, eventually forcing cells to protect themselves by becoming insulin-resistant. Cancer follows the same logic but takes a more dramatic turn — cancer cells ditch their mitochondria entirely, reverting to anaerobic fermentation in the presence of oxygen (the Warburg effect), effectively de-evolving into selfish ancestral bacteria. By abandoning mitochondria, they immunize themselves against the cell death mitochondria would normally trigger. Steven Bartlett draws the perfect analogy: an antisocial alien that refuses to cooperate with the rest of the organism and demands ever more resources. Picard confirms it — tumor angiogenesis is cancer calling for more energy supply. The chapter closes with a discussion of how hyperglycemia, smoking, and excess calories can all drive cancer through the same energy-resistance mechanism, rather than purely through genetic mutation.

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