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Tucker Carlson's Third Party: Blackmail Play or Real Movement?

At 28:44 · chapter starts 27:45

The panel turns to Tucker Carlson's announced departure from the GOP and launch of a new non-interventionist, America-First reform party. The immediate consensus is skepticism — Domenech can't quite read what Tucker is doing, but Shapiro can. His read: Tucker is not actually building a party. He's running a quasi-DSA play — a strategic blackmail threat designed to make Republicans fear a spoiler in 2026. If Republicans lose badly, Tucker will claim it's because they didn't cater to him, then demand the party hand him the wheel. Domenech compares the gambit to Pat Buchanan's 2000 Reform Party run — but Ben Domenech corrects him: Tucker is no Pat Buchanan. Buchanan was smarter, more consistent, and more disciplined. Pat Buchanan's 1992 convention speech, often mischaracterized as a pure culture-war address, was mostly about economics, crime, and working-class issues. Kalshi prediction markets have Tucker at 25% odds to run for president in 2028, which Domenech says he would immediately short. The group agrees: nobody on this panel is joining the Tucker Party.

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