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Friendly Fire: The JD Vance Debate, Midterm Madness & Return of the Firing Squad

Explore episode Jul 2, 2026

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Michael Knowles' JD Vance Interview and the Iran MOU Debate

At 18:05 · chapter starts 9:50

Michael Knowles sets the scene: he was in DC for an unveiling of an American Revolution statue, stopped by the Great American State Fair, and then secured a surprise hour-long interview with Vice President JD Vance covering his book, Iran, and 2028 prospects. Ben Shapiro watched the interview and delivers a mixed verdict — Vance is smooth and well-spoken, but his repeated attacks on MOU critics strike Shapiro as bizarre and unbecoming. Shapiro has personally criticized the MOU and finds it falling apart — not just in the Strait of Hormuz but because a competing peace plan in Lebanon runs directly against it. He lays out alternatives: walking away from the Strait, bombing Karg Island, arming Gulf allies, or pressing through 'Project Freedom' despite Saudi resistance. Ben Domenech counters that Vance's anti-war language is not Obamian but Trumpian, rooted in Trump's 2016 critique of endless Iraq War. Ben Domenech then reveals he was personally named by Vance on Megyn Kelly's show as someone who just wants to keep bombing Iran — a characterization he finds deeply unfair given his consistent opposition to the Iraq War.

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