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Prosecutors' love triangle theory. Youth pastor accused of wife's murder. Plus, June Diane Raphael.

Explore episode Jul 2, 2026

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Patricia Laird Takes the Stand

At 7:27 · chapter starts 4:57

Nobody expected Patricia Laird to be a key witness, but her testimony shifted the entire dynamic. A San Diego County Sheriff's Deputy, she had been fielding obsessive calls from Larry — from his work phone, his kids' phones, unknown numbers — until she started blocking him. She even called Maya woman to woman, and Maya denied the affair, claiming she'd invented it to make Larry 'feel stupid' and calling him 'crazy.' Patricia, alert as a law enforcement officer, offered Maya police resources and a restraining order. Maya turned her down and said she wasn't scared. Then came the critical moment: Patricia went into labor the same night Maya disappeared, and Jamie was at the hospital with her for five days. That alibi is what the prosecution needed most.

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