Podbit · Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Gutfeld leads late-night at 3.3 million average viewers, Colbert and Kimmel trade at around 2.5 million, and Fallon trails badly at 1.3 million. The crew debates whether any of these numbers should be considered cancelable in 2025.
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Stephen Colbert averaged 2.5 million viewers a night — competitive with Gutfeld's 3.3 million — and still got fired. The crew alleges CBS canned him because he called out Skydance's alleged effort to bribe Trump officials for FCC clearance on the Paramount acquisition.
Nate Marshall alleged CBS fired Stephen Colbert because he criticized Skydance's alleged effort to bribe Trump officials for FCC approval of their Paramount acquisition.
Byron Allen went from hosting Comics Unleashed to owning the Weather Channel — and now he's bought Stephen Colbert's 11 PM CBS slot. Viewership has cratered immediately because nobody wants to watch a stripped-down stand-up chat show.
Byron Allen, known from Comics Unleashed, owns the Weather Channel — a fact the hosts found surprisingly impressive.
Stephen Colbert's series finale set a show record with 6.74 million live plus same-day viewers.
Stephen Colbert averaged 2.5 million viewers per night before being cancelled, significantly more than the hosts expected.
Ten years ago, 90% of tech media coverage was relentlessly negative and Kalanick felt he couldn't speak freely. Today, the rise of independent podcasters and Elon Musk buying Twitter has fundamentally changed the game — and it's why he's finally willing to talk.
Kay Classman, 28, was arrested for repeatedly posing as a 16-year-old and enrolling in Bronx high schools across multiple districts. She wasn't a predator — just someone so sad and lonely she wanted her lost childhood back. That's somehow sadder.
Disney, Meta, and Paramount have collectively paid Trump roughly $60 million to settle what Galloway calls nuisance lawsuits — all routed to his presidential library. Newsrooms are folding. The White House is handpicking press pool participants. This is what the end of a free press looks like.
One cheap fake documentary made by a teenager in his mother's basement convinced 16% of Americans that 9/11 was an inside job. Social media didn't invent conspiracy — it just gave it a rocket engine.
A progressive organization with a stated mission to destroy Turning Point USA received millions from ActBlue and is now publicly pushing the narrative that TPUSA insiders and Israel murdered Charlie Kirk. Andrew Wilson traced the network of accounts all amplifying the same conspiracy in perfect unison.
The microphone-bomb theory fails on every physical front: no smoke, no ignition, mic on the wrong side of the wound. And the .30-06 rifle round used is extensively documented by the US Army — it does not always produce a through-and-through wound. Wilson argues this is a well-studied projectile with well-understood behavior.
Andrew Wilson publicly offered Candace Owens $300,000 to debate her theory that Israel and TPUSA murdered Charlie Kirk. She refused. He argues that flat-earthers will debate anyone, but Kirk conspiracy theorists won't defend their claims under scrutiny.
Erika Kirk became the CEO of TPUSA while grieving her husband's murder in public, and now faces tens of thousands accusing her of conspiring to kill him. Andrew Wilson calls it mind-boggling psychological torture. The sparklers at the memorial weren't suspicious — they were a grieving widow doing her best in an impossible situation.
Joe Rogan and Andrew Wilson watch a bystander video of the Corey Ruiz police shooting in Madison, Wisconsin live on air. The video is so blurry they initially think a female officer fired the fatal shots. They later learn a male officer did, after Ruiz allegedly pulled a knife and stabbed officers. Their conclusion: you cannot have a hot take on a story you don't understand yet.
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