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VCs told CZ the crypto exchange space was too crowded and refused to fund Binance. He did an ICO instead, raising $15 million — and delivered approximately 4,100x returns. The same investors who refused him would have turned $1,000 into $4.1 million.
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The founding of Binance is a story of institutional rejection followed by populist triumph. CZ assembled a team, made his pitch to venture capitalists, and was told no by everyone: too many exchanges, too crowded a market. He pivoted to an ICO in July 2017, selling roughly half the total BNB supply for $15 million. [1] — Changpeng Zhao "$15M ICO → 4,100x return: Binance's 2017 ICO raised $15 million and delivered approximately 4,100x returns to early token holders." 38:12 The first three weeks were anxious — BNB traded below ICO price. Then in week four, BNB rose 2,900% in a single week. Early believers who put $1,000 into the ICO ultimately saw returns of roughly $4.1 million. A friend named Chen Bo didn't even read the white paper before committing hundreds of thousands of dollars, simply trusting CZ's track record. Within months, a finance team member reported that Binance was generating hundreds of bitcoins in revenue — figures so large that CZ ordered a double-check before believing them.
Binance's 2017 ICO raised $15 million and delivered approximately 4,100x returns to early token holders.
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