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Lee Harris Claims to Channel Aliens. Why Do Millions Believe Him?

Explore episode Jun 3, 2026
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Is It a Scam? The Money Question

Lee Harris Claims to Channel Aliens. Why Do Millions Believ… · Jun 3, 2026 Business

Mariana van Zeller asks Lee Harris directly whether he's just making good money through an elaborate con. Harris acknowledges the criticism, earns a good living, and then turns the argument: if money had been his goal, he could have achieved it far more easily and far earlier. He points out that criticizing channelers for profiting while ignoring the value audiences receive is also a way of dismissing those audiences.

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The most direct confrontation of the episode arrives when Mariana simply asks: are you making a lot of money? Lee says yes, compared to the beginning — he used to charge £10 a reading. He earns a good living now, and he doesn't pretend otherwise. But his counter-argument is pragmatic: if money had been the goal, there were far easier and faster paths to it for someone with his intelligence and communication skills. He only bought his first car and made a deposit on a house for the first time in the last five or six years — the growth of the business has been gradual, not a calculated land grab. He also turns the money critique back on the audience: when people criticize a channeler for making money, they are also implicitly dismissing every person who paid and felt they received something real. Consumers don't charitably subscribe to things that don't work — they stay because they get value. The more interesting question, Lee argues, isn't whether he's profiting but whether anyone is being harmed.

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