The Louis Theroux Podcast

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S8 EP3: Andrew Callaghan on the ‘cancelverse’, lizard people, and whether he’s being sued by Melania Trump

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From Comedy to Journalism: The Minneapolis Moment

S8 EP3: Andrew Callaghan on the ‘cancelverse’, lizard peopl… · Jun 22, 2026 News

Callaghan arrived in South Minneapolis three days after George Floyd's murder, asked a man with a gas can why he was burning things, and got one of the most poetic lines in modern documentary journalism: 'Everybody feel like that.' That single video transformed All Gas No Brakes from a comedy platform into a serious journalistic outlet overnight.

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The Flat Earth Conference: Community of the Dejected

At 22:50 · chapter starts 15:42

The Flat Earth Conference chapter is one of the episode's most illuminating, because Callaghan treats it not as a comedy memory but as sociological evidence. He found his way there via a 'divorced dad' type he met at the 2019 Area 51 raid — a man drinking alien-branded Bud Lights and prepared to die for alien disclosure. The conference itself was dominated not by crackpots but by people who had each suffered a personal breakdown: a tattooer cancelled for being inappropriate with clients, a comedian fired from Hollywood for antisemitic tweets, a man disinvited from family Thanksgiving for his beliefs. Callaghan draws a direct line from the Flat Earth Conference to January 6th — both were gatherings of people who felt the world had wronged them, who found community and spiritual validation in conspiratorial worldviews, and who had concluded that the battle between good and evil explained their misfortunes. The chapter also features a cheerful detour into the surprisingly high standard of rapping at the conference, including Callaghan performing his own old high school bars for Theroux's assessment.

Society & Culture
The Flat Earth Conference: Lost Souls and Rap Music

S8 EP3: Andrew Callaghan on the ‘cancelverse’, lizard peopl… · Jun 22, 2026 Society & Culture

Every single person at the 2020 Flat Earth Conference had been through a personal crisis — a canceled tattooer, a comedian fired for antisemitic tweets, a divorced dad searching for truth. Callaghan saw it not as a curiosity but as a preview of the conspiracy community explosion that COVID would supercharge.

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