Podbit · The Louis Theroux Podcast
Tucker Carlson spent a year insisting Hamas was no different from al-Qaeda. Now he's questioning US support for Israel. Callaghan's diagnosis: Carlson reads comment sections, tracks the shifting tide of his base, and adjusts his politics accordingly — branding it journalism while running the same grift he perfected at Fox News.
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The final political chapter of the episode maps what both men see as a genuine fracture point in the Trump movement: the question of Israel and antisemitism. Callaghan argues that the only remaining Trump loyalists are young Zionists, the dwindling Ben Shapiro audience, and older Republicans set in their ways. The Gen Z right, he contends, is anti-Zionist bordering on antisemitic — not out of genuine solidarity with Palestinians, but because the tide shifted and they're using Palestinian suffering as an entry point for more explicit antisemitism. Tucker Carlson [1] — Andrew Callaghan "Tucker Carlson spent a year insisting Hamas was no different from al-Qaeda. Now he's questioning US support for Israel. Callaghan's diagnos…" 1:05:40 , in Callaghan's reading, spotted this shift early: after a year of defending Israel post-October 7th, he began questioning US support — not from conviction but from comment-section polling. Callaghan's phrase 'ultimate propaganda grifter' for Carlson is one of the episode's sharpest lines. Theroux connects this to a broader pattern of right-wing commentators who follow public opinion rather than lead it, updating their positions as the base migrates.
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