Vance once called Trump 'cultural heroin' and 'America's Hitler.' His conversion came not during the 2020 campaign, but in the weeks after January 6th — when he decided he wanted to run for Senate in 2022. All you need to know about JD Vance.
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Vance once called Trump 'cultural heroin' and 'America's Hitler.' His conversion came not during the 2020 campaign, but in the weeks after January 6th — when he decided he wanted to run for Senate in 2022. All you need to know about JD Vance.
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The Vance segment is Scarborough at his most cutting. He catalogs the contradictions: Vance attacked the Catholic Pope, a recent Catholic convert lecturing the Pope on theology so offensively that right-wing American Catholics were appalled. The same Vance called Trump 'cultural heroin' and 'America's Hitler.' Most damningly, Vance's conversion to Trumpism came not before or during the 2020 campaign, when it might have meant something — but in the weeks after January 6th, after the insurrection, after the lies, after the attempt to overturn democracy [1] — Joe Scarborough "Vance once called Trump 'cultural heroin' and 'America's Hitler.' His conversion came not during the 2020 campaign, but in the weeks after …" 33:05 . He saw a Senate seat opportunity and made the calculation. Now he is in a competition with Marco Rubio for Trump's succession — and by all indications, Trump is leaning Rubio's way. The book includes a scene where Trump jokes 'Cubans love gold' when asked if his successor would tear down the White House's gilded decor. Vance, Scarborough argues, has been handed a losing brief on Iran — and Trump has already told people that if it fails, it's JD's fault, not his [2] — Joe Scarborough "Trump sent Vance to Iran negotiations knowing the mission was impossible — and said as much. If it fails, it's JD's fault and not mine. Van…" 34:40 . Vance has been set up to take the fall.
JD Vance's conversion to Trumpism did not come during the 2020 campaign but in the weeks after January 6th, when he decided he wanted to run for Senate in 2022.
Trump sent Vance to Iran negotiations knowing the mission was impossible — and said as much. If it fails, it's JD's fault and not mine. Vance has been handed a losing hand in a race against Rubio for Trump's succession, and he keeps ending up on the wrong side of history.
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