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The Mind-Bending MK Ultra Experiments of Dr Ewen Cameron

Explore episode Jun 24, 2026

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The Lawsuit: Val Orlikow vs. The CIA

At 37:10 · chapter starts 34:32

Val Orlikow's parliamentarian husband David connects the family with Joseph Rauh, a celebrated US civil rights attorney who believes suing the CIA is winnable. Rauh's team gathers 8 additional plaintiffs — including Harvey Weinstein — and files suit at the end of 1980. His strategy is to prove the CIA knew Cameron's experiments were dangerous and funded them without oversight. He deposes Sidney Gottlieb (the CIA's 'poisoner in chief'), John Gittinger (the original MKUltra programme officer for Subproject 68), and Robert Lashbrook (who approved the funding). Two smoking guns emerge: a speech in which Cameron himself calls his experiments brainwashing, and Gittinger's admission that the CIA approached Cameron — directly contradicting the agency's claim that Cameron sought them out. But then a journalist reveals that the Canadian government was also funding Cameron — and paying even more than the CIA had. Canada, which had been helping Rauh, goes silent immediately, terrified of being dragged into the suit. The CIA leverages this against the plaintiffs. After eight grinding years and CIA delay tactics, a new CIA director forces a settlement: roughly $70,000 per person. The Canadian government later settles with 77 victims — without admitting fault.

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