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How to Build a $200M App Without Showing your Face w/ Chris Josephs

Explore episode Jul 10, 2026
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Getting on CNN, Tucker Carlson, and Fox News Without Hiring a PR Firm

How to Build a $200M App Without Showing your Face w/ Chris… · Jul 10, 2026 Business

Autopilot has never hired a PR agency. Chris Josephs cold-emailed producers and reporters, offering them a steady stream of exclusive stories about suspicious congressional stock trades. By the time Fox and Friends called, the relationship was already warm — it's exactly what PR firms do, just without the invoice.

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The Tucker Carlson Appearance and Autopilot's Media Playbook

At 45:00 · chapter starts 42:40

Tucker Carlson's producer reached out to Autopilot because Autopilot was simply the authority on congressional stock trading. Chris and his co-founder were flown to Tucker's studio in an SUV with U.S. government plates, walked through a high-security setup, and proceeded to talk to a guy in a button-down Vineyard Vines shirt who, Chris notes, is exactly who you'd expect — smart, funny, frat-adjacent, with a surprisingly high-pitched laugh. The outcome was concrete: a top-10 App Store ranking following the appearance. The pattern confirms Chris's media thesis — you don't buy your way into these rooms, you earn your way in by becoming the definitive source in your niche. The next target is Joe Rogan, who Chris believes would love the trading angle and the shock-value stories Autopilot has accumulated around suspicious political trades.

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