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The kind of AI we actually need | Van Jones

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Abundance Without Inclusion Is Scarcity — And Scarcity Becomes Humiliation

At 11:58 · chapter starts 10:50

This is the emotional and intellectual peak of the talk. Jones argues that abundance without inclusion doesn't feel like abundance to those left behind — it feels like scarcity, because it is. When tech companies talk about scaling abundance, marginalized communities experience it as scaling scarcity. And scarcity that comes with a witness — children asking their parents why they don't have what others have — curdles into something more dangerous: shame and humiliation. Jones draws on his extensive work in the toughest prisons in the world to make the point visceral. The person with nothing, once humiliated, becomes the most dangerous person in the room even if they weigh 100 pounds. We are not just risking mass unemployment, he warns. We are risking mass humiliation. And that has to be avoided.

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