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Talking Dateline: The Bluegrass Mystery

Explore episode Jul 15, 2026

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Case Overview: Who Was Ella Jackson?

At 4:05 · chapter starts 3:14

Blayne sets the stage: Ella Jackson, a devoted Kentucky mother with adult son Philip and young son Alex, went missing in October 2019. Her husband Glenn called 911 first — calmly, almost indifferently, citing a TV show as his reason for not waiting — and her adult son Philip called 24 hours later insisting something was very wrong. Investigators examined three men: Glenn, ex-husband Jason Hans, and Philip. They ultimately settled on Glenn. Andrea then shares a striking personal parallel: years ago as a local TV reporter in Cincinnati, she watched a calm man report his wife missing at a police station window. She offered to help with news coverage; he declined. The wife's body was later found behind a motel. He eventually pled guilty. The parallel underscores how telling composure — or the lack of it — can be.

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Jason Hans: Lightning Strikes Twice

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Jason Hans, Ella's ex-husband and close friend, also lost his first wife Irina to an unsolved murder more than 20 years ago. The coincidence made investigators look hard at him — but it also gave him a harrowing frame of reference for understanding what Ella suffered.

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