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Building things and breaking things in China (Summer School World Tour)

Explore episode Jul 15, 2026

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China's Rise and the Engineering State Theory

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Smith sets the historical stage with a recording from Planet Money's 2012 China trip — a jubilant announcement aboard the Beijing-Shanghai bullet train — before introducing guest professor Dan Wang, a Stanford Hoover Institution fellow and author of 'Breakneck: China's Quest to Engineer the Future.' Wang's thesis is elegant and unsettling: China is an 'engineering state' because its senior leadership has historically held engineering degrees, shaping a governing philosophy that treats every problem — economic, social, demographic — as a construction challenge. Wang and Smith tease out the difference between the US (a lawyer culture that litigates before it builds) and China (which builds first, litigates never). The prior General Secretary built a dam; the current one studied chemical engineering. This is not metaphor — it is policy.

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