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Building things and breaking things in China (Summer School World Tour)

Explore episode Jul 15, 2026

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Dan Wang Returns: Engineering the Fertility Crisis

At 35:30 · chapter starts 33:25

Robert Smith reconnects with Dan Wang to discuss what Chinese young people are actually saying — and the answer is resonant across the Pacific: they sound like American kids, some checking out, some trying drugs legal in California, none of them convinced they're living in a boom era. When Smith asks whether the Party's pro-natalist programmes are working, Wang paints a darkly comic picture: the engineering state, unable to accept a problem it can't build its way out of, has sent the Communist Party's lowest-level units — neighbourhood committees — to interrogate young families about their childbearing intentions. In one case Wang recounts from his book, a woman complained the Party had asked about her menstrual cycle six times. Her own parents asked once. It is a perfect encapsulation of the engineering state's failure mode: treating citizens as inputs in a demographic production function rather than autonomous human beings.

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