The Mel Robbins Podcast

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How to Get More Out of Life: Make More Money & Build Something That Matters with Seth Godin

Explore episode Jul 11, 2026

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When to Quit: The Dip vs. the Slog

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Mel invokes Jay-Z's famous 'the genius thing we did is we didn't quit' line as a springboard for Seth's framework on strategic quitting. Seth traces the cultural rehabilitation of quitting he attempted with 'The Dip' — the first mainstream business book to argue that knowing when to stop is a skill, not a moral failure. The framework is clean: a dip is the hard stretch before a breakthrough — the gym in February, the first year in real estate, the ugly middle of learning a new craft. A slog is just decline with no upside, like smoking through emphysema. The sunk-cost reframe is the most liberating piece: all the blood, sweat, money, and time you've put into a failing venture is already gone, regardless of what you do next. The only real question is whether tomorrow's effort is worth making on its own terms. Almost everyone who walked away from a sunk cost, Seth observes, is glad they did.

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