Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

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Jackie Tohn Returns

Explore episode Jul 13, 2026
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Anxiety vs. Reality: How Facing the Diagnosis Killed the Fear

Jackie Tohn Returns · Jul 13, 2026 Health & Fitness

Jackie is a self-described hypochondriac and neurotic — yet when her BRCA results arrived, she became a machine. She and Monica Padman connected this to Monica's own epilepsy diagnosis: the catastrophizing is almost always worse than confronting the actual thing. The anxiety has nowhere to land once the feared event becomes real.

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Ovarian Cancer, Nipple Sensitivity, and the Sisterhood

At 44:40 · chapter starts 40:50

Jackie explains that her ovary removal is still to come — the 'top down' joke gets its payoff — and that ovarian surveillance in 2026 remains limited to a pelvic ultrasound, with none of the MRI precision available for breast tissue. A friend arranged for Jackie to meet Nina, a woman who had been through the same surgery; Nina took Jackie to her car and lifted her shirt to show her the results, giving Jackie real hope. Jackie clarifies that because her surgery was preventative rather than cancer-treating, she was able to keep her nipples. She has already lost significant sensation in them, but the nerve-sparing procedure used by the Bedford Breast Center — which added 90 minutes to surgery — has begun to restore feeling. She feels no change to her female identity, noting that her sense of self comes from being funny, not from her chest.

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