The Mel Robbins Podcast

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The Manipulation Expert: 4 Hidden Signs You’re Dealing With a Toxic Person

Explore episode Jul 20, 2026

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Meet Dr. Ten Brinke & The Promise of This Episode

At 6:36 · chapter starts 3:27

Dr. ten Brinke gets straight to the point: her research isn't about serial killers — it's about the ordinary, everyday versions of dark personality traits that erode the fabric of workplaces, families, and friendships. She describes how people with these traits enshrine competition where cooperation would benefit everyone, divide communities, and make the people around them believe the world is fundamentally terrible. The archetypes she offers — the callous mother-in-law, the attention-hoarding boss, the PTA ringleader who rules by rumor — are designed to make the abstract personal. Her goal for the episode is to give listeners the tools to stop that rot before it spreads further.

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