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The $2 Trillion Question | Tobias Carlisle on SpaceX, the AI Buildout, and the Rotation No One Sees

Explore episode Jun 20, 2026
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SpaceX IPO, Time Magazine Cover, and the Market Top Signal

The $2 Trillion Question | Tobias Carlisle on SpaceX, the A… · Jun 20, 2026 Business

Three signals are converging that may mark the top of the AI boom: the SpaceX IPO is forcing the S&P 500 to absorb a massive new entrant, OpenAI and Anthropic seeking $80 billion are pulling liquidity from the market, and Time Magazine just put AI on the cover — the same indicator that called 'death of equities' in 1979.

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SpaceX, giant IPOs and market supply

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Three of the largest IPOs ever are coming at once. Carlisle wonders if SpaceX marks the cycle top, noting a sharp small-value vs. large-growth swing on the day of its debut.

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