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EP25: Anthropic vs OpenAI, SpaceX chaos, 25 lessons in 25 episodes

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Cold open, the SpaceX call

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The episode opens mid-argument with four rapid-fire clips that double as the episode's thesis statements — Ben's token supply warning, Rik's SpaceX call, and the proclamation that coding is the new podcasting. Rik then formally opens episode 25, noting the milestone with a characteristic flourish: 'a quarter of 100.' He explains that he fed all 25 episodes to Claude and asked it to distil the dominant themes, which it returned as three wars: OpenAI vs Anthropic, open vs closed source, and the Elon Corner. The episode's unusual retrospective format is set up here — a structured grading of past calls against what actually happened, bookended by the week's live news.

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