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Ada Palmer – Machiavelli is the most misunderstood thinker of all time
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Why popes became warlords
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Ada Palmer explains how geographic proximity made Italians see popes as ordinary power-hungry men. Wealth accumulation, prisoner's dilemma dynamics, and generational corruption drove the papacy toward militarism. [1] — Ada Palmer "Every generation left wealth to the church. Wealthier church meant more political power. More power meant more incentive for ambitious fami…" 33:20
Every generation left wealth to the church. Wealthier church meant more political power. More power meant more incentive for ambitious families to buy their sons into it — right down to Machiavelli's family debating the right-sized bribe for his brother's priesthood. The papacy wasn't corrupted by bad people; it was corrupted by a structural trap nobody could escape.