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Ben Rhodes: This Is What Losing Looks Like
At 12:38 · chapter starts 10:40
Ben's analysis is bracingly blunt. Under the JCPOA, Iran had to ship out its uranium stockpile, destroy its plutonium reactor, remove most centrifuges, and accept intrusive inspections before receiving roughly $55 billion [2] — Ben Rhodes "JCPOA Iran revenue ~$55B vs $300B+ now: Under the JCPOA, Iran received an estimated $55 billion after meeting extensive verification condit…" 12:10 . The $300 billion reconstruction fund alone is nearly 6x that — before counting oil sales, asset unfreezing, or Strait tolls [1] — Ben Rhodes "Under the JCPOA, Iran got roughly $55 billion only after destroying its plutonium reactor, shipping out its uranium, removing centrifuges, …" 10:23 . He invokes the war's human cost: Iranian civilians killed, Lebanese displaced, unknown damage to US bases. Tommy adds that Trump achieved perhaps 1 of 4 stated war goals. Both hosts push back against the left's instinct to not criticize the deal — the moment to set the narrative is now, and the goal isn't just messaging this deal but killing forever the idea that America can bomb its way to peace in the Middle East [3] — Ben Rhodes "The instinct to not attack Trump for fear of sounding hawkish is wrong. Democrats need to permanently discredit the neocon FDD worldview th…" 13:10 . Ben closes with the sharpest line: what this deal looks like are the terms dictated to the losing party.
Under the JCPOA, Iran received an estimated $55 billion after meeting extensive verification conditions; the new deal offers far more with fewer preconditions.
The instinct to not attack Trump for fear of sounding hawkish is wrong. Democrats need to permanently discredit the neocon FDD worldview that America can bomb its way to peace. Not saying so now lets the White House set a false narrative that this was a victory.
