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J.D. Vance: Getting 'Penced'
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Scott draws a direct parallel between Mike Pence's political destruction — being blamed for refusing to overturn the 2020 election — and what Trump is now doing to J.D. Vance by making him the face of the Iran MOU. He coins the verb 'pencing him' to describe the pattern. Kara adds that polling is already showing Trump in danger in previously unassailable states like Georgia and Texas, and suggests more seriously than before that Trump's health may be deteriorating, pointing to his behavior at the G7 and Macron visibly steering him like an elderly parent. Scott pushes back on the health framing, arguing Trump's judgment was always terrible — the narcissism and poor decisions aren't new, just more consequential.
Trump is hanging J.D. Vance out to dry on the Iran MOU — sending him to sign a deal so bad that even the most conservative Republicans are calling it a disaster. Scott's verdict is blunt: J.D. Vance will not be president.
