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DMT Research: Mapping Another World
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A CBD vape leads Rogan to consider doing DMT, which becomes a substantive discussion of the frontier of psychedelic research. Gallimore's programme at Bacuía in the Caribbean aims not just to administer DMT but to create a repeatable map of the experience — sending subjects back to the same 'place' repeatedly, charting entities they consistently encounter. Rogan has been there: jesters, millions of them, giving him the finger in perfect unison, which he interpreted as a correction — he takes himself too seriously. Chase Hughes's five-hour experience changed him permanently. Rogan's philosophical point is sharp: the human body endogenously produces the most potent psychedelic on earth. The body built a gateway to somewhere. Whether that somewhere is hallucination or reality may be the wrong question — the experience is equally real either way.
Researcher Andrew Gallimore is running extended intravenous DMT sessions — keeping subjects in the state for up to five hours — to map the entities and environments that consistently appear. Joe Rogan has seen jesters there himself. The question isn't whether it's a hallucination. The question is whether those things are real.
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