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Mass Surveillance, Data Centers, and Losing Legal Protections
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The conversation turns to the surveillance state. Theo raises the explosion of data center construction across the U.S. — including a proposed 40,000-acre AI campus in Utah — and Kiriakou notes that companies like Palantir, which received CIA seed funding or are staffed by retired senior officers, are heavily involved. He explains that before 9/11, the government needed a federal judge's signed warrant to access anyone's data. The 2016 NDAA replaced that with national security letters — administrative subpoenas served directly to providers with no judicial oversight. Meanwhile, per Snowden and Assange, the NSA's Utah facility can store every American's communications for 500 years. Kiriakou's verdict: genuine privacy is impossible unless you own zero technology.