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500 - Iran’s Baddie Era & The Data Center Destiny

Explore episode Jun 20, 2026

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Karl Rove's Dead Empire Doctrine

At 36:30 · chapter starts 36:00

Dillon invokes Karl Rove's statement to journalist Ron Suskind — 'We are an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality' — as the guiding principle of US foreign policy for his entire lifetime. The Iran outcome, he argues, proves that era is over. America failed on both military and narrative fronts: it couldn't win the war, and it couldn't convince anyone at home or abroad that attacking Iran was justified. The tools of modern warfare are drones and propaganda, not aircraft carriers, and the US failed to deploy either effectively.

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