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Susan Glasser: Our Money-Grubbing President

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JD Vance's Catholicism and the 'Dignity' of Normal Americans

At 28:10 · chapter starts 25:20

Tim Miller plays a clip of JD Vance telling Laura Ingraham that his Catholic faith motivates him to protect the dignity of 'normal Americans' by keeping out 'low-wage foreigners' — a formulation Tim finds theologically offensive and un-Catholic in its very framing. Susan Glasser zeroes in on the word 'dignity' being used to describe policies that have imprisoned thousands of immigrants in ICE facilities without legal process, with tens of thousands of court decisions ruling the administration's conduct an abuse of power. She argues the current Pope has been the single most persuasive rebuttal to Vance's warped theology. Tim notes he has never heard a pope endorse the concept of protecting 'normal Americans' at the expense of everyone else — and that this kind of rhetoric reveals Vance as a convert who has adopted a costume of Catholicism without its substance.

Religion & Spirituality
JD Vance Invokes Catholic 'Dignity' to Justify Anti-Immigrant Policy

Susan Glasser: Our Money-Grubbing President · Jul 2, 2026 Religion & Spirituality

JD Vance told Laura Ingraham his Catholic faith motivates him to protect the dignity of 'normal Americans' — while defending policies that have imprisoned thousands of immigrants in ICE facilities without process. Susan Glasser notes that the current Pope has become the most effective rebuttal to Vance's warped theology.

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