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Cuckolded by Mr Tumble | Claudius (Part 2)

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Hisslapped

At 49:30 · chapter starts 47:03

Shortly after Claudius dies, the philosopher Seneca publishes a savage political satire titled the Apocolocyntosis — a pun on 'apotheosis' that suggests Claudius became a pumpkin rather than a god. The hosts coin a new verb: to be 'hislopped' (after Have I Got News For You's Ian Hislop). The satire depicts Claudius arriving at the gates of heaven, where even Hercules can't understand his stuttering, and Augustus delivers a speech cataloguing his failures before sending him off to the underworld. The hosts note that Seneca had a personal motive: Claudius had exiled him to Corsica. The episode closes on a genuine rehabilitation of Claudius — a man who conquered Britain, built Rome's harbour, reformed slave law, and perhaps even engineered Caligula's fall, all while being publicly humiliated at every turn. He is, the hosts conclude, the Gordon Brown of Roman emperors. And that, finally, is a compliment.

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Seneca's Post-Mortem Pumpkin Roast

Cuckolded by Mr Tumble | Claudius (Part 2) · Jun 25, 2026 History

Shortly after Claudius died, philosopher Seneca wrote a savage political satire called the Apocolocyntosis — 'pumpkinification' — mocking Claudius's deification. The joke: instead of becoming a god, he became a pumpkin. The hosts note Seneca had a personal motive: Claudius had exiled him to Corsica.

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