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The Two Great Challenges to the Founding: Civil War Doctrine and Modern Progressivism
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Arnn begins his diagnosis by naming the vulnerability at the heart of America's founding: it is a country founded on an argument. If people stop believing the argument, that is death itself. He identifies two great challenges to the Declaration's principles in American history. The first was the doctrine underlying the Civil War: that men are not born free and equal, but evolve, and that those who evolve faster — identified by skin color — should rule the others. He notes the deep philosophical incoherence of this: if the soul is immaterial, it has no color, so skin color cannot be essential to the human being. The second challenge is modern progressivism, rooted in German historicism (Hegel, Marx) and transmitted to America through Woodrow Wilson, John Dewey, Frank Goodnow, and Herbert Croly. Their argument: everything changes with time; what was true in one era is not true in another; and human evolution is heading toward a knowable endpoint that experts can identify and engineer. Natural science, in this framework, becomes not a way of knowing but a way of manipulating. Arnn quotes Goodnow — founder of the American Political Science Association — to illustrate the reductio: even what teachers teach doesn't matter, because future economic conditions will determine what students think. The only escape from that determinism is to seize control of the conditions. C.S. Lewis in 'The Abolition of Man' showed where that leads.
German historicism claims everything changes with time and that we can master the historical process to remake society. C.S. Lewis called this 'The Abolition of Man.' The progressives — Dewey, Wilson, Goodnow — turned science from a way of knowing into a way of manipulating. The result: an administrative state that no one elected and that now makes most of America's laws.
Dr. Arnn argued that progressive historicist ideas — which hold that government can re-engineer society — first achieved a political majority in the United States in the 1932 election of Franklin Roosevelt.
In 1930, all government — federal, state, and local — was about 12% of GDP. Today, counting regulatory costs, it's over 50%. Meanwhile, local government's share of spending collapsed from over 60% to under 20%, and federal spending rose from 23% to the mid-60s. The shift is staggering — and it followed directly from progressive ideological victories.
