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Household Robots, Bipedal Cleaners, and the Teleoperation Secret
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Leo Laporte highlights Shift, a startup offering free home cleaning in exchange for first-person video training data for household robots. The panel is skeptical. Sam Abuelsamid delivers the most deflating piece of information in the robotics segment: Joanna Stern's recent Wall Street Journal video exposé found that most of the 'autonomous' household bipedal robots being demonstrated are actually being teleoperated — a human sitting in Silicon Valley watches a camera feed through the robot's eyes and controls its movements remotely. The only robots that are genuinely impressive without teleoperation, Sam says, are Boston Dynamics' Atlas and a handful of Chinese robots. Molly White admits she has converted to robot vacuums, particularly praising a Dreame model for its mopping capability, while noting her dog is merely puzzled rather than threatened by it.
Molly White confirms that Wikipedia is a core part of the training data for virtually every major frontier AI model. That makes the Wikipedia editor strike threat a hidden crisis for the entire AI industry. The irony: the Wikimedia Foundation is receiving revenue from AI companies through its Enterprise API, but that money isn't protecting the volunteer editorial community that makes the data worth having.
Hundreds of Wikipedia volunteer editors are threatening to strike after the Wikimedia Foundation disbanded its dedicated community wishlist engineering team, laying off workers some allege were targeted for union activity. Molly White explains that this is just the latest episode in a decades-long adversarial relationship between the volunteers who build Wikipedia and the paid staff who run its foundation.
Hundreds of prolific Wikipedia volunteer editors are threatening to strike after the Wikimedia Foundation laid off engineers from the community wishlist team, some of whom were involved in unionization efforts.