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Why OpenAI Bought a Podcast — with TBPN’s John Coogan and Jordi Hays
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The Origin Story: How TBPN Started
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The two founders trace the beginning to a mutual connection in Los Angeles — both had founded companies, raised from the same VCs, and were at a crossroads about what to do next. They began calling each other to talk tech and ideas, eventually recording one of those conversations and sharing it with David Senra of the Founders Podcast. What makes the story remarkable is that they hadn't published a single episode yet. Senra listened anyway, then told them to take it ten times more seriously. That one conversation reframed a casual creative experiment as a full-time business commitment. The lesson they took from it — treat the podcast like a startup, not a side project — would become their most important competitive differentiator in a crowded market where most podcasters dabble.
Before TBPN had published a single episode, John and Jordi sent David Senra a Google Drive file of a raw conversation. He listened, and told them to take it ten times as seriously as they were. That one piece of advice reframed a casual experiment as a full-time startup.
Most podcasters treat their shows as side projects — they have venture funds or companies on the side. Coogan and Hays went full-time with no outside capital and no guests for the first 150 hours. That full commitment was the signal that unlocked bigger guests, better production, and a marketing machine that treated each episode like a product launch.
