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Why OpenAI Bought a Podcast — with TBPN’s John Coogan and Jordi Hays
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Snap Valuation and the Spectacles Spinout
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Galloway brings up Snap with a thesis pregnant with a hidden buy recommendation. The numbers are stark: $1.5B in Q1 2025 revenue, on track for $6B+ for the year, trading at a $7B market cap with the stock down 93% over five years. That implies Snap's core advertising business is being valued at close to zero. Coogan adds that Snap still has zero marginal cost and network effects — a vibe-coded competitor can never replicate its content liquidity pool. [1] — Scott Galloway "Snap is projected to do over $6 billion in revenue this year while trading at only a $7 billion market cap — implying roughly an 80% discou…" 47:00 The proposed catalyst is spinning out Spectacles, the AR glasses hardware division, which is consuming cash and suppressing the multiple. But Coogan and Hays express doubt Spiegel will act: the lifestyle of being a handsome young billionaire running an online nation is its own kind of golden handcuffs, and shareholders who buy Snap have to accept they are implicitly accepting that dynamic.
Snap is projected to do over $6 billion in revenue this year while trading at only a $7 billion market cap — implying roughly an 80% discount. Galloway says the real unlock would be spinning out its Spectacles hardware division. The counterargument: Evan Spiegel seems comfortable being the young billionaire CEO of an online nation of Zoomers and has little incentive to change.
Instead of a handful of 90-second ad reads, TBPN sells advertisers 250 short 20-second integrated reads, prioritizing repetition and frequency for live audiences.
Snap is projected to do over $6 billion in revenue this year while trading at only a $7 billion market cap, implying roughly an 80% discount to fair value.
TBPN recognized that a single enterprise customer acquired through their ads could justify an entire annual sponsorship deal, making CPM metrics irrelevant.
Galloway argues the Anthropic-to-OpenAI number-one flip is the most rapid competitive reversal he has ever seen in the corporate world, happening in roughly 90 days.
Galloway calls the Anthropic-OpenAI reversal the fastest number-two-to-number-one flip he has ever seen in corporate history. Hays frames it as a masterclass in focus: Anthropic stayed obsessively product-driven while OpenAI got distracted. The lesson will be imprinted on founders for a generation — complacency kills even category-defining companies.
