The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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OpenAI Whistleblower FINALLY Speaks: “AI Has A 70% Chance Of Going Horribly Wrong!“

Explore episode Jul 13, 2026

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Before any formal introduction, the episode drops the audience directly into the most alarming version of Kokotajlo's worldview. He describes the 'scary open secret' in the AI industry: the real possibility that humanity could end up creating a new species that rules the world, with a 70% chance that goes horribly wrong in ways that include human extinction. He reveals he told his wife they should not have more children because the future is too uncertain, and that he doesn't believe their children will ever join a traditional workforce. He explains that his credibility rests on his time at OpenAI in 2022, doing AI forecasting, and that he ultimately resigned because most of the world was 'asleep at the wheel.' Steven Bartlett then briefly mentions the $2 million the guest forfeited rather than sign a non-disparagement agreement. Kokotajlo's closing observation in this cold open — that powerful AI CEOs are 'literally afraid' that whichever rival gets to superintelligence first might become a dictator — lands as one of the episode's most memorable lines.

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