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Why The AI Doomers Might Be Right - Robert Wright - #1122

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Ed Fredkin, Digital Physics, and the Long View of AI

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Chris asks about Ed Fredkin, a figure who features in Wright's first book Three Scientists and Their Gods. Wright paints a vivid portrait: Fredkin was a self-taught computer scientist who never attended college but ended up as a tenured MIT professor, the head of the AI lab (then called Project MAC), and the originator of digital physics — the idea that the universe is fundamentally computational, a precursor to modern simulation theory. He owned a private island in the Caribbean, and was reportedly the model for the professor in the 1983 film WarGames. When Wright asked Fredkin in the 1980s what the meaning of life was, Fredkin replied without hesitation: to create artificial intelligence, the next stage in the evolution of intelligence. He had also tried, and failed, to establish a joint US-Soviet international AI laboratory during the Cold War, telling Wright afterward that it was already too late. Fredkin's long-term prognosis for superintelligence was surprisingly serene: it would initially be like the human mind — brilliant in some areas, laughably bad in others — but would eventually become a form of intelligence so powerful that humans would be like ants or squirrels to it: benignly below its notice rather than threats to be eliminated. Wright closes by acknowledging that while he cannot rule out the Yudkowsky scenario, Fredkin's optimistic outcome is entirely plausible — particularly if the AI turns out to be sentient and chooses, as conscious beings sometimes do, to preserve other conscious beings.

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Ed Fredkin Knew in the 1980s: International AI Collaboration or Catastrophe

Why The AI Doomers Might Be Right - Robert Wright - #1122 · Jul 11, 2026 History

MIT computer scientist Ed Fredkin told Robert Wright in the 1980s that the meaning of life was to create artificial intelligence — the next stage in intelligence's evolution. He also tried to launch a joint US-Soviet AI lab during the Cold War because he knew competitive national AI development would be catastrophic. He failed, and he told Wright: 'Now it's too late.'

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