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#2525 - Nick Bostrom

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AI compute growing ~240% per year

#2525 - Nick Bostrom · Jul 14, 2026

Bostrom estimates AI compute is growing at roughly 240% per year, illustrating the exponential expansion of the infrastructure underlying modern AI capabilities.

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Consciousness, the Dyson Sphere Mind, and 'Are We Really Conscious?'

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With AI compute growing at roughly 240% per year, Bostrom asks people to imagine a Dyson sphere — a megastructure harnessing a star's full energy output — running as a single mind. The consciousness question usually goes: 'Could a machine be conscious?' Bostrom inverts it: are we really conscious? A driver on the freeway passes thousands of homes, mothers with strollers, and entire lives — and afterward recalls almost none of it. We are a murky, diffuse, confused little glimmer floating through a coconut-sized organ. A Dyson-sphere consciousness might be as far above us as we are above a flea — and probably much further. The real transition at stake, Bostrom argues, isn't AI gaining awareness; it's the universe waking up for the first time. Humans are at risk of being proud of something we have barely begun.

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