Snapshot · Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Salim Ismail stated that 70% of elite AI researchers are not US citizens, with Chinese, Indian, Taiwanese, and British researchers dominating — highlighting a critical immigration policy failure.
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Alex Wissner-Gross argues the NVIDIA chip embargo is a textbook example of a half-measure that produces the worst outcome: it incentivized Chinese labs to develop breakthrough quantization and efficiency research that now makes their models cheaper and better than if the embargo had never happened [1] — Alex Wissner-Gross "The US export controls on advanced NVIDIA chips achieved the worst possible outcome: they irritated China without actually stopping it, jus…" 37:25 . Dave Blundin draws the Vietnam War analogy — you either go all-in and win quickly or you don't engage, but you never creep in with partial measures. The conversation shifts to Yang Zhilin: Diamandis presents the narrative that CMU trained him and America let him go. Alex Wissner-Gross adds nuance — Yang actually founded Recurrent AI in China while still a PhD student at CMU in 2016, suggesting he may have always planned to return. But the group agrees the broader principle stands: 70% of elite AI researchers are not US citizens, and the asymmetric advantage of building in America is eroding. Dave Blundin adds the data point that 80% of Chinese PhD graduates return to China — unlike Indian graduates who overwhelmingly stay.
Yang Zhilin earned his PhD at Carnegie Mellon — one of the world's top CS programs — then founded Recurrent AI in China while still a student and went back to build Moonshot AI. Salim Ismail points out that 70% of elite AI researchers are not US citizens; stapling a green card to every STEM PhD is the highest-ROI immigration policy change America could make. Instead, we keep sending them home.
Dave Blundin cited a report noting that approximately 80% of Chinese PhD graduates who study in the US return to China, compared to Indian graduates who overwhelmingly stay.
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